15 Oct 22
@kingdavid403 saidOK, I understand what your stance is.
You are wrong. I know there is a God and so do many other people. Just because you don't know does not mean that others do not know. You cannot say that others do not know just because you don't know.
Many see the evidence, just because you have not does not mean that others have not. As an atheist you cannot tell others what they know about God. As I said, spiri ...[text shortened]... tuality forum all day every day trying to sow doubt in those that know. Hilarious to say the least.
@fmf saidKingDavid403: Jesus was murdered by the Jews and Romans.
No, I did not.
KingDavid403: Jesus was murdered by the Jews and Romans.
FMF: And you claim to KNOW this or is it something that you BELIEVE is true?
KingDavid403: It's written in non-religious Roman and Jewish historic records also besides the Bible.
FMF: Not contemporaneous "records", no. It's not. Even the New Testament was written decades after the events supposedl ...[text shortened]... . Someone has given you false information. Josephus was born several years after the death of Jesus.
He was.
FMF: And you claim to KNOW this or is it something that you BELIEVE is true?
I know this.
KingDavid403: It's written in non-religious Roman and Jewish historic records also besides the Bible.
It is. The Bible is contemporaneous "records", whether primary or secondary it is still contemporaneous "records."
FMF: Josephus did not produce "contemporaneous records". He was writing two or three generations after Jesus's death. He wasn't alive when Jesus was alive.
He still produced "contemporaneous records".
KingDavid403: Yes he was alive when Jesus was alive. FMF: But he wasn't. Someone has given you false information. Josephus was born several years after the death of Jesus.
Yep, I was wrong here. He was born three or four years after the murder of Jesus. No one gave me false information; that would be you. I'm was writing off the cuff from studies I did several years ago.