08 Jun 06
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Originally posted by twhiteheadI believe in God but I dont believe in religions of any kind ...
Lost?
Confused?
One man religion?
Which god did you say?
Do you believe in heaven? Hell? Sin?
Do you believe there is a God or just open to the possibility?
Do you pray?
Why dont you believe in the Spaghetti Monster?
if I am not an agnosthic or atheist , I would be .... ( I am looking for the right word )
08 Jun 06
Originally posted by drjegcStupid?
I believe in God but I dont believe in religions of any kind ...
if I am not an agnosthic or atheist , I would be .... ( I am looking for the right word )
Which God?
All gods are constructions of religions, so saying you believe in god but not religion sounds a bit dumb to me.
08 Jun 06
Originally posted by drjegcGo and look up religion.
I believe in God but I dont believe in religions of any kind ...
if I am not an agnosthic or atheist , I would be .... ( I am looking for the right word )
Are you saying that it is imposible to know anything about your God or that only you know anything?
08 Jun 06
Originally posted by amannionAll gods are constructions of religions, so saying you believe in god but not religion sounds a bit dumb to me.
Stupid?
Which God?
All gods are constructions of religions, so saying you believe in god but not religion sounds a bit dumb to me.
If, by gods you refer to the false gods of the various man-made religions that have existed since time began, you are correct. If, however, you are attempting to lump the Creator of the universe in with that motley crew, you are incorrect.
While some will identify religion in the most generic possible terms, a religion is a system of belief that demands action on the part of its adherents, in order to gain the approbation of its god(s).
Christianity has no such demands, and as such, does not qualify as a religion in that sense. One becomes a Christian simply by accepting the gift of salvation (a non-meritorious act of faith, completely independent of any work).
08 Jun 06
Originally posted by FreakyKBHOf course a member of another 'religion' will claim the same but with their religion and God substituted.
If, by gods you refer to the false gods of the various man-made religions that have existed since time began, you are correct. If, however, you are attempting to lump the Creator of the universe in with that motley crew, you are incorrect.
While some will identify religion in the most generic possible terms, a religion is a system of beli ...[text shortened]... ting the gift of salvation (a non-meritorious act of faith, completely independent of any work).
And as far as I know the word religion does not have anything to do with 'demanding action on the part of its adherents', but merely refers to a system of beliefs, which of course includes Christianity.
Also your description of Christianity would only fit a minority of people who claim to be Christian, so you should consider using a denominational name rather than 'Christian'.
08 Jun 06
Originally posted by twhiteheadSome religions may claim the same, but a simple cursory look at their beliefs will reveal otherwise. All religions have checklists of do's and don'ts, actions which must be taken to gain their gods' approbation and/or achieve salvation/spiritual states. These checklists depend on the merit of the individual. Christianity does not.
Of course a member of another 'religion' will claim the same but with their religion and God substituted.
And as far as I know the word religion does not have anything to do with 'demanding action on the part of its adherents', but merely refers to a system of beliefs, which of course includes Christianity.
Also your description of Christianity would on ...[text shortened]... be Christian, so you should consider using a denominational name rather than 'Christian'.
08 Jun 06
Originally posted by twhiteheadI would go one further and say that religion is just a system of beliefs where the underlying structure of the universe endorses certain moral values (c.f. Bertocci).
Of course a member of another 'religion' will claim the same but with their religion and God substituted.
And as far as I know the word religion does not have anything to do with 'demanding action on the part of its adherents', but merely refers to a system of beliefs, which of course includes Christianity.
Also your description of Christianity would on ...[text shortened]... be Christian, so you should consider using a denominational name rather than 'Christian'.
I think Freaky's view is an Evangelical Fundamentalist/Baptist view.
09 Jun 06
I don´t believe in any kind of religion.
I do believe that all religions - organized or not - are human creations, with mistakes as everything we have done ...
I don´t believe in any priest, nun, pope, bible, torah, koran, bagavad ghita, etc ... because they tend to exclude you when somebody disagree with their precepts ... who is lying then? who really gets the truth ?
To me, no one !
09 Jun 06
Originally posted by FreakyKBHThis is some new age version of Christianity where you get all the benefits without having to put any effort in?
[b]All gods are constructions of religions, so saying you believe in god but not religion sounds a bit dumb to me.
If, by gods you refer to the false gods of the various man-made religions that have existed since time began, you are correct. If, however, you are attempting to lump the Creator of the universe in with that motley crew, you are i ...[text shortened]... ting the gift of salvation (a non-meritorious act of faith, completely independent of any work).[/b]
I was under the impression that Jesus had issued a new commandment - love your neighbour as you love yourself. That sounds like a pretty majuor demand to me.