If you could save billions from eternal torture…

@fmf said
Well, if you think so, that's OK. Your 'analysis' of it suggests that you don't actually understand it and that you still don't really understand what is being discussed. But if it hasn't helped you to gain an insight into this issue, that's fine.

If believing that helps you sleep at night, feel free to believe it. I’m Ok with that.

@pb1022 said
This isn’t a good analogy because presumably many on the climate change message board aren’t in your village.

If you believed that "torture in burning flames for eternity" was the ACTUAL fate ~ a ghastly, agonizing, neverending punishment ~ awaiting some of your neighbours, work colleagues, teachers at your children's school, people you know in your suburb, old college friends, people who own local businesses and shops you go to, etc. etc. how many minutes a day would you spend chatting to an atheist like me on a chess website?

@fmf said
If you believed that "torture in burning flames for eternity" was the ACTUAL fate ~ a ghastly, agonizing, neverending punishment ~ awaiting some of your neighbours, work colleagues, teachers at your children's school, people you know in your suburb, old college friends, people who own local businesses and shops you go to, etc. etc. how many minutes a day would you spend chatting to an atheist like me on a chess website?

Two hours a day.

Knowing that you’re not the only recipient of my messages.

And I’d send out an e-mail blast to neighbours, work colleagues, teachers at my children's school, people I know in my suburb, old college friends, people who own local businesses and shops I go to, etc. etc. and include my phone number at the bottom for those who want to discuss it further.

We’re not in the 1950s. We have faster and more efficient ways of communicating than going to the public square with a bullhorn and soapbox.

@pb1022 said
Two hours a day.

Then I would deduce that, deep down, you did not actually believe in "torture in burning flames for eternity", regardless of what your mind was urging you to do with your time and what you were espousing.

@pb1022 said
We’re not in the 1950s. We have faster and more efficient ways of communicating than going to the public square with a bullhorn and soapbox.

No one has suggested "going to the public square with a bullhorn and soapbox".

@pb1022 said
I’d send out an e-mail blast to neighbours, work colleagues, teachers at my children's school, people I know in my suburb, old college friends, people who own local businesses and shops I go to, etc. etc. and include my phone number at the bottom for those who want to discuss it further.

Using your time to do this would make more sense to me.

@fmf said
No one has suggested "going to the public square with a bullhorn and soapbox".

Perhaps you should read the OP again and this paragraph in particular:

<<Then what on Earth are you doing here at RHP wasting the precious time given you which could be used to get out in the streets and speak to those who are in the most awful peril?>>

I don’t see modern technology in that paragraph. Instead, I see something quite analogous to a bullhorn and soapbox.

@fmf said
Then I would deduce that, deep down, you did not actually believe in "torture in burning flames for eternity", regardless of what your mind was urging you to do with your time and what you were espousing.

I honestly don’t have a firm belief or conviction on what happens to the lost. I should, but I don’t.

@fmf said
KellyJay?

Does this analogy help you to understand my stance [as laid out on page 1]?

Why don't you make up something; what I say has no meaning to you. It's either, as you put it, faith speech, or you change what I said to twist it to suit you.

@pb1022 said
Instead, I see something quite analogous to a bullhorn and soapbox.

If that's what you see, so be it, but I haven't made any such suggestion. I don't think sprinkling your posts with facetious comments serves you well.

@kellyjay said
Why don't you make up something; what I say has no meaning to you. It's either, as you put it, faith speech, or you change what I said to twist it to suit you.

Does my analogy about the wildfires help you to understand my stance? You either understand my stance or you don’t.

@fmf said
If that's what you see, so be it, but I haven't made any such suggestion. I don't think sprinkling your posts with facetious comments serves you well.

You said *no one* had made such a suggestion when it’s clear the OP did.

Facetious? There you go, using those $10 words on me.

@pb1022 said
I honestly don’t have a firm belief or conviction on what happens to the lost. I should, but I don’t.

But the thought exercise is this...

If you believed that "torture in burning flames for eternity" was the ACTUAL fate awaiting people.

@pb1022 said
You said *no one* had made such a suggestion when it’s clear the OP did.

You are the one who introduced the notion of "bullhorn and soapbox". Getting "out on the streets" is a turn of phrase meaning 'real life' as opposed to posting on a chess website message board.

@kellyjay said
Why don't you make up something; what I say has no meaning to you.

Of course it has meaning to me. That's why I've asked you about my analogy... to see if what I say has meaning to you.