If you could save billions from eternal torture…

@divegeester said
Lol, you are a lazy, uncaring, full of piss and hot air pos.

And you’re a nasty, friendless drunk.

@divegeester said
Any excuse will do huh.

I answered this already. Here’s the answer I gave:

<<I think many Christians who believe that doctrine pray for their family members, friends and acquaintances to be saved. I think daily prayers like that to God accomplish far more than most people realize.

I think many Christians who believe that doctrine contribute money to charities who have spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ as either their main mission or one of their main missions.

I think Christians who believe that doctrine may have some impediments to personally spreading the Gospel such as shyness, unsure of how to present the Gospel, etc.>>

For many months, I prayed every day for God to lead my family members, friends and more and more people to a saving knowledge and belief in Jesus Christ.

And more than a few times, I said that prayer on my knees.

And I guarantee that’s more than you ever did to save someone - and I’m not even certain an eternity in hell (and not annihilation) awaits the unsaved.

@divegeester said
I wonder how many people will burn in hell for eternity because you are too lazy or too uncaring to go and speak to them of the danger of eternal torture which YOU totally believe is real.

What does it say about YOU that you will spend hours at RHP arguing with me, FMF and others, rather than going down your own street and warning your neighbours about your version of god.

I don't keep silent, and I wonder how many will end up there and think about your saying no, don't worry about it? If it were just my god, not the God of the Bible, you would be correct, but I don't dismiss scripture as you do and accept some of the pieces I like and discount those that I don't.

@divegeester said
Do you believe that I will be burnt in hell for eternity because I don’t believe in the teaching of being burnt in hell for eternity?

Yes or no?

No slabs of faith speak, just straight to the point answer please.
Thank you

I hope not, but if you go there, that will be between you and Jesus; I don't throw people in Jesus has them cast into the lake of fire. Holiness and righteousness are not dismissed because of the love of God; it is because of the love of God that He laid down His life for us, so we could avoid that which was originally prepared for the devil and his angels.


Matthew 8:11-13
English Standard Version
I tell you, many will come from east and west and recline at table with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven, while the sons of the kingdom will be thrown into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” And to the centurion Jesus said, “Go; let it be done for you as you have believed.” And the servant was healed at that very moment.

@kellyjay said
I don't keep silent, and I wonder how many will end up there and think about your saying no, don't worry about it? If it were just my god, not the God of the Bible, you would be correct, but I don't dismiss scripture as you do and accept some of the pieces I like and discount those that I don't.

You are blind to your own cherry picking. Here are verses I brought up and you ignored them because you want to think that only Christians are justified by the death of Christ.

Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.(Romans 5:18 KJV)
All men have the free gift of God which is justification by the death of Christ

Here it is again
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. (1 Corinthians 15:22 KJV)

And again
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; (1 Timothy 2:3-5 KJV)

Justification, Saved by Grace is for ALL. It is FREE FOR ALL. Nobody needs to know that Jesus did that. But if you do that is good. Nobody needs to believe that Jesus did that. But if you do that is better. Nobody needs to understand how and why that happened. But if you do that is the best. The Grace of God put that FREE GIFT in place so that all can be justified and saved by Grace., It is for all people.

A saved and justified, faithful believer in Christ is a Christian Saint, who rule with Christ for the millenial reign. All others are saved and justified by the death of Christ but are not Christian Saints,

However all people do not get eternal life, which is a separate and distinct matter. Eternal life requires the keeping of the commandments which all men will not do.

@rajk999 said
You are blind to your own cherry picking. Here are verses I brought up and you ignored them because you want to think that only Christians are justified by the death of Christ.

Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.(Romans 5:18 KJV) ...[text shortened]... distinct matter. Eternal life requires the keeping of the commandments which all men will not do.

You are confused

@rajk999 said
You are blind to your own cherry picking. Here are verses I brought up and you ignored them because you want to think that only Christians are justified by the death of Christ.

Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.(Romans 5:18 KJV) ...[text shortened]... distinct matter. Eternal life requires the keeping of the commandments which all men will not do.

<<Eternal life requires the keeping of the commandments which all men will not do.>>

You mean like this commandment?

“A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.”

(John 13:34)

Wow. Love three times in one commandment.

When you insult and bear false witness against Christians, are you obeying this commandment from Jesus Christ?

@pb1022 said
<<Eternal life requires the keeping of the commandments which all men will not do.>>

You mean like this commandment?

“A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.”

(John 13:34)

Wow. Love three times in one commandment.

When you insult and bear false witness against Christians, are you obeying this commandment from Jesus Christ?

We understand your dilemma. When a mans doctrine and beliefs are found wanting, and he fails to justify them, he will seek to retaliate with personal remarks, and attack the poster rather than deal with the content of the post. Its a stressful place you have found yourself. Next time think twice before listening to the church pastor.

@kellyjay said
You are confused

That kind of reply says a lot about you but very little about the teachings of Paul regarding justification. I get it.

@rajk999 said
We understand your dilemma. When a mans doctrine and beliefs are found wanting, and he fails to justify them, he will seek to retaliate with personal remarks, and attack the poster rather than deal with the content of the post. Its a stressful place you have found yourself. Next time think twice before listening to the church pastor.

<<When a mans doctrine and beliefs are found wanting, and he fails to justify them, he will seek to retaliate with personal remarks, and attack the poster rather than deal with the content of the post.>>

Maybe the clearest example of psychological projection I’ve seen on here.

<<When a mans doctrine and beliefs are found wanting, and he fails to justify them, he will seek to retaliate with personal remarks, and attack the poster rather than deal with the content of the post.>>

You think, Rajk999?

@sonship said

<<When a mans doctrine and beliefs are found wanting, and he fails to justify them, he will seek to retaliate with personal remarks, and attack the poster rather than deal with the content of the post.>>

You think, Rajk999?

I attack your doctrine, which is usually contrary to the teachings of Christ and the Apostles. I have no interest in you personally or what you do or how you live whether or not you are good or righteous or charitable. I have never once asked you any of those things ... why ? Because that has no bearing on the teachings in the bible, which is my only interest here.

@rajk999 said
You are blind to your own cherry picking. Here are verses I brought up and you ignored them because you want to think that only Christians are justified by the death of Christ.

Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.(Romans 5:18 KJV) ...[text shortened]... distinct matter. Eternal life requires the keeping of the commandments which all men will not do.

Every scripture that deals with each topic should be considered because it is possible what is being addressed in one area don’t address every particular nuance that deals with that topic.

Jesus did come to redeem us and all sins were taken care of, but some reject that grace for numbers of reasons. They will not receive the grace offered. You believe other wise!?

@kellyjay said
Every scripture that deals with each topic should be considered because it is possible what is being addressed in one area don’t address every particular nuance that deals with that topic.

Jesus did come to redeem us and all sins were taken care of, but some reject that grace for numbers of reasons. They will not receive the grace offered. You believe other wise!

References... post them to support your statement.

Where does the bible say people reject the free gift of the Grace of God.

Please spare us your opinion... thanks.

@rajk999 said
References... post them to support your statement.

Where does the bible say people reject the free gift of the Grace of God.

Please spare us your opinion... thanks.

Silence ... when you find it post it.