@rajk999 saidThose who don’t believe in Jesus are condemned already read John 3.
References... post them to support your statement.
Where does the bible say people reject the free gift of the Grace of God.
Please spare us your opinion... thanks.
@kellyjay saidJust say you cannot fine supporting references for your statement ... people reject the free gift of the Grace of God.
Those who don’t believe in Jesus are condemned already read John 3.
Not believing in Christ is not the same a rejecting the free gift of the Grace of God.
@rajk999 saidJesus is our savior you reject Him you are condemned already. You don’t have the Son you don’t have the Father.
Just say you cannot fine supporting references for your statement ... people reject the free gift of the Grace of God.
Not believing in Christ is not the same a rejecting the free gift of the Grace of God.
25 Jan 22
@pb1022 saidPlease feel free to start a thread on that topic to see if you get any interest.
Fourth, your “everyone goes to Heaven” doctrine is ludicrous and not based at all in the Holy Bible.
Fifth, you are avoiding a series of questions on your “everyone goes to Heaven” doctrine.
This thread is about individuals who DO believe in eternal torture wasting time in this forum rather than using the valuable time to save their non Christian neighbours from their horrendous version of God who will be torturing them in hell.
25 Jan 22
@kellyjay saidI didn’t ask you if you “kept silent” and I’m not asking you want you do when you aren’t “silent”.
I don't keep silent, and I wonder how many will end up there and think about your saying no, don't worry about it? If it were just my god, not the God of the Bible, you would be correct, but I don't dismiss scripture as you do and accept some of the pieces I like and discount those that I don't.
I’m asking you why you waste your time on this website arguing with people when you could be talking to your non Christian neighbours about your version of god who will personally torture them in hell for eternity.
25 Jan 22
@kellyjay saidSo while you believe in the doctrine of eternal suffering I.e. your version of God torturing non Christians for eternity, you don’t know you just you “hope” that me, a Christian, won’t be tortured for eternity because I don’t believe in the doctrine?
I hope not
Have I got you right there?
@divegeester saidI addressed this point of yours. Twice.
Please feel free to start a thread on that topic to see if you get any interest.
This thread is about individuals who DO believe in eternal torture wasting time in this forum rather than using the valuable time to save their non Christian neighbours from their horrendous version of God who will be torturing them in hell.
Here’s a copy-and-paste of the second time I answered it:
<<I answered this already. Here’s the answer I gave:
I think many Christians who believe that doctrine pray for their family members, friends and acquaintances to be saved. I think daily prayers like that to God accomplish far more than most people realize.
I think many Christians who believe that doctrine contribute money to charities who have spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ as either their main mission or one of their main missions.
I think Christians who believe that doctrine may have some impediments to personally spreading the Gospel such as shyness, unsure of how to present the Gospel, etc.
For many months, I prayed every day for God to lead my family members, friends and more and more people to a saving knowledge and belief in Jesus Christ.
And more than a few times, I said that prayer on my knees.
And I guarantee that’s more than you ever did to save someone - and I’m not even certain an eternity in hell (and not annihilation) awaits the unsaved.>>
Do you believe praying to God for someone to be saved is not worthwhile?
Do you believe contributing money to charities that have as their sole mission (or one of their sole missions) spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ is worthless?
Do you acknowledge some Christians, for a variety of reasons, are not comfortable sharing the Gospel with strangers but instead pray for them to come to a saving knowledge and belief in Jesus Christ and share the Gospel with family and friends when they think they’ll be receptive to it?
@rajk999 saidRejecting the savior is rejecting salvation it only happens through Jesus,
Just say you cannot fine supporting references for your statement ... people reject the free gift of the Grace of God.
Not believing in Christ is not the same a rejecting the free gift of the Grace of God.
@pb1022 saidAs I said feel free to start a thread on your desired topic(s).
I addressed this point of yours. Twice.
This thread is aimed at understanding why those adherents to the doctrine of eternal suffering spend so much valuable time on this website instead of trying to help save their non Christian neighbours.
@divegeester saidAnd as I said, that question’s been answered.
As I said feel free to start a thread on your desired topic(s).
This thread is aimed at understanding why those adherents to the doctrine of eternal suffering spend so much valuable time on this website instead of trying to help save their non Christian neighbours.
I note you refuse to acknowledge that prayers to God for someone to be saved are worthwhile.
I note you refuse to acknowledge that contributing money to charities that spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ is worthwhile.
And I note that you refuse to acknowledge that some Christians, for a variety of reasons, may not feel comfortable sharing the Gospel with strangers and instead share the Gospel with family and friends when they think they’ll be receptive to it.
Lastly, I note you have failed to provide any verses or passages from the Holy Bible to support your silly “Everyone goes to Heaven” doctrine.
Why is that pertinent to this thread?
Because believing (or pretending to believe) everyone goes to Heaven gives you a convenient excuse not to lift a finger to save someone and instead cast yourself as prosecutor, jury and judge over Christians who do try to save the lost.
Neat little trick.
@pb1022 saidBut I didn’t ask you to repeat your answer.
And as I said, that question’s been answered.
@divegeester saidYou claimed (falsely) that my posts weren’t relevant to this thread.
But I didn’t ask you to repeat your answer.
I was demonstrating they were.