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In Christ is not metaphorical

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@sonship said
Having said this FMF, I would hasten to add. Even if I AM a narcicist, there is hope for a narcicist personality because NO ONE can do an inside job o f healing and rescue like Jesus.
Misanthropy + Narcissism = Christianity

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@sonship said
The normal Christian knows he is no better than others and has been saved by grace alone.
Misanthropy: non-believers are not fully human. Narcissism: I am made fully human by my faith in my God figure. My beliefs mean I am immortal.

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@sonship said
Jesus Christ is NUMBER 1 alive.

And Jesus Chrtist is secondly - enterable.

Jesus is unusual. We can ENTER into Him.
He is enterable and we can be "in Christ" not as allegory but really, and practically.
Seek help immediately.

You are obsessed with either consuming Jesus or being inside Jesus. Why not just follow his teachings and example?!

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@sonship said
Narcicism also lacks empathy for others. The normal Christian knows he is no better than others
Is that why you described my pholosophical ideas as being like animal faeces, my relationship with my wife and children as one of darkness and a black heart, my attempts to engage you on your opinions on a discussion forum as "unbelievably evil" like "The Devil" tempting Jesus, and how you'd rather be dead than have my mind? They are examples of a "normal Christian knowing that he is no better than others"? Gosh, sonship, you truly are beyond parody.

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Did I ever write a statment in the past voicing regret of saying hurtful things to other posters?

Do you recall such a statement or do you never remember that? I think a yes or a no should indicate.

( not that I agree with ALL of your characterizations of reactions from me to offensive things YOU wrote towards me. )

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Did I ever write a statment in the past voicing regret of saying hurtful things to other posters?
I don't remember you making a sincere apology, no.

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@sonship said
not that I agree with ALL of your characterizations of reactions from me to offensive things YOU wrote towards me.
I remember some shabby "apology" that sounded like this, yes.

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Is that why you described my pholosophical ideas as being like animal faeces,


In reaction to unflattering things YOU penned about by Christian faith.



my relationship with my wife and children as one of darkness and a black heart, [/quoyte]

Sorry. I do not recall ever insulting your family.
I think you are exaggerating.

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my attempts to engage you on your opinions on a discussion forum as "unbelievably evil" like "The Devil" tempting Jesus, and how you'd rather be dead than have my mind?


The last unkind thing I said was about rather being dead then having that kind of mind. I think that was the only offensive thing I have said to you AFTER I wrote a profuse apology to all posters about saying anything hurtful.

It has been pointed out by others that you dish out but are sensitive when what you spread around comes back around to you. If you insult others - that's just business as usual - the way the universe just happens to be. When others respond similarly to your insults, you hold it as an offense.

I think the poster put it something like - "your problem is that your own poop doesn't stink."



They are examples of a "normal Christian knowing that he is no better than others"? Gosh, sonship, you truly are beyond parody.


Not necessarily.
Some of my reactions (REACTIONS) to insults aimed my way have been very poor.

I recall you never once expressing regret for offensive things.
Probably because as a narcicist you consider you are only a victim and are
incapable of lapses of civility.

Can you point to one example of you ever expressing regret about writing something offensive on this Spirituality forum?

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I remember some shabby "apology" that sounded like this, yes.


I thought you would remember.

Another thing I expect.
If I aplogize personally you probably will say you don't NEED any such lousy apology. I think maybe holding to the offendedness means more. Who knows? You might be able to use it in the future.

Like as you are doing now.
So now we see how perhaps all dialogue will end on your side.

"Don't forget sonship. You said this stuff."

I don't grovel or repeat apologies.
If you reject "shabby" expressions of apologizing, so be it.

You think I have read from YOU an uninterrupted stream of flattering compliments ? You've dismissed me disrepectfully as many times as there are pixels in this post.

Maybe, I should just flag you from now on with "That what you just wrote about me I find very offensive and insulting" and leave it at that.

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Seek help immediately.

You are obsessed with either consuming Jesus or being inside Jesus. Why not just follow his teachings and example?!


Seek help huh?
Okay, Here's a FMF style "Oh So Civil" comment.

I forgive you.

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Now the idea of eating Christ came from Christ.
And Christ is worthy of my paying attention to. He is exemplary in human history.

And Sorry, I do sit up and take notice at something like this:

"As the living Father has sent Me and I live because of the Father, so he who eats Me, he also shall live because of Me." (John 6:57)

Being the KIND of Person Jesus Christ is, that arrests my attention.
If you think that is indication of the need for psychiatric counseling, I'll accept that suspicion from someone.

I remember what it was like as an unbeliever.
And Jesus said many other things like that.
I and many other lovers of Christ down through time have discovered -

"You Know? There is something TO this."

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@sonship said
In reaction to unflattering things YOU penned about by Christian faith.

Sorry. I do not recall ever insulting your family.
I think you are exaggerating.

The last unkind thing I said was about rather being dead then having that kind of mind. I think that was the only offensive thing I have said to you AFTER I wrote a profuse apology to all posters abou ...[text shortened]...
Not necessarily.
Some of my reactions (REACTIONS) to insults aimed my way have been very poor.
What's this? Are you insisting how sincere your general apology was a couple of years ago? You just seem to be squirming, pridefully.

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@sonship said
I think that was the only offensive thing I have said to you AFTER I wrote a profuse apology to all posters about saying anything hurtful.
It was "profuse", was it?

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@FMF

Excessive instrospection can feed a narcicistic attitude.
If I continue to talk about me, me, me, it would be spiritually counter productive.
I am writing for the profit.

Enough has been said about me,
Now I would like to return to the subject matter of being in Christ.

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One of the effective ways to abide in Christ actually is to trust in His redemption and look away from excessive instrospeection to Jesus.

"Looking away unto Jeus, the Author and Perfecter of our fith . . . '"

In Christ is taking Christ as everything we need.
He is and are not.
Rather He is everything to us.

Paul spoke much about himself or His Christian audience being "in Christ".
This verses escessively in themselves but looking away to Jesus.

Looking away to Jesus nourishes faith at every juncture - initially and continually.

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