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Applaud the very clever remark of atheist FMF everyone.
See how clever this unbelieving scoffing man can be?
To FMF it is a big joke - Jesus, His life, words and deeds, death, and resurrection - a big plaything for his entertainment.
FMF has a big moral compass. Not for himself, but for everyone else.
I would rather advise you to take all the words of Jesus with seriousness, if you fully comprehend or not. That is the safety in taking in ALL of His speaking and example.
Or you can follow FMF to prepare clever responses to God someday when you inevitably come before your Maker.
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There are those trying to convince you that there is a multiverse.
You see, this is just one of an infinite ensemble of worlds in which your life is duplicated.
In the one next door, your sins maybe do not need forgiveness.
Christ speaks to the one you KNOW you are in though.
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@sonship saidDo you know what the big difference is between me and fmf, on the one hand, and you and kellyjay on the other? It’s not that fmf and I are damned and you’re saved. It’s that you and kellyjay want to push everyone into your box, and fmf and I are quite content to let you two live in your own box and everyone else live in whatever other boxes they construct for themselves. It’s no skin off my nose if Hindus believe in blue elephant gods and you believe in Big Daddy In The Sky with a flowing white beard and Andaman Islanders believe in green eyed idols. Whereas you're so cocksure that only your God is real, that only your brand of religion matters.
@moonbus
There are those trying to convince you that there is a multiverse.
You see, this is just one of an infinite ensemble of worlds in which your life is duplicated.
In the one next door, your sins maybe do not need forgiveness.
Christ speaks to the one you KNOW you are in though.
Your threat of eternal damnation, which kellyjay euphemizes as not a threat but a ‘warning’, holds no terrors. That’s a fairytale which was invented for frightening children who don’t want to live in your box into compliance.
Someone convinced you that there is another life, more real than this one, another world more real than this one, that this one is just a rehearsal for the next one. fine with me, if that’s what you want to believe, it’s no skin off my nose.
Why can’t you accept that I’m living this one as the real deal, not a rehearsal ? you don't know me. You don't have the foggiest notion what my shortcomings are as human being or what trials I face and with what deficits I have to meet them. Your solution just doesn't work for me. Neither you nor KJ is interested in saving my soul (assuming I even have one); you're only interested in proving something to yourselves.
10 Apr 22
@moonbus saidThat cuts both ways, only if there is no danger is your assessment correct.
Do you know what the big difference is between me and fmf, on the one hand, and you and kellyjay on the other? It’s not that fmf and I are damned and you’re saved. It’s that you and kellyjay want to push everyone into your box, and fmf and I are quite content to let you two live in your own box and everyone else live in whatever other boxes they construct for themselves. It’s ...[text shortened]... aving my soul (assuming I even have one); you're only interested in proving something to yourselves.
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Your threat of eternal damnation, which kellyjay euphemizes as not a threat but a ‘warning’, holds no terrors. That’s a fairytale which was invented for frightening children who don’t want to live in your box into compliance.
I have written pages and pages and more pages through the years HERE on the positiveness of the eternal purpose of God.
Maybe you see "God," a Bible verse, or "Christ" and think immediately only "Threat! Threat!"
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That’s a fairytale which was invented for frightening children who don’t want to live in your box into compliance.
I think it is misfortune plenty to be so unknowing of why one has life and existence.
I asked you for your better explanation then the "stupidity" of what God says.
Isn't it discomfort enough to only letting the clock tick until just look back on your
whole life saying "That was wierd, whatever it was. Off to oblivion . . . I guess (?)"
I think there is not a disconnect between meaning and moral reconcilation. There is a relation. And the Gospel comes from varied angles of which I here have presented [i]MANY.
Sometimes to those who think there are no consequences, I remind them that this is not so.
At least, I think, one should wonder "Why did this man Jesus take our need to come to God SO seriously? Why was there upon Him such a sense of consequences to our not being brought to God? Why did He go through for me what He says He was willing to go through? Why the sense of urgency with Him?"
10 Apr 22
@sonship saidIt’s not at all that I think what God says is stupid.That’s a fairytale which was invented for frightening children who don’t want to live in your box into compliance.
I think it is misfortune plenty to be so unknowing of why one has life and existence.
I asked you for your better explanation then the "stupidity" of what God says.
Isn't it discomfort enough to only letting the clock tick until just ...[text shortened]... o through for me what He says He was willing to go through? Why the sense of urgency with Him?" [/i]
It’s what people say about God that’s sometimes stupid.
11 Apr 22
@divegeester saidHe’s a broken record. In his own words: “I have written pages and pages and more pages through the years HERE …” yup, tru dat.
Lately sonship has taken up a new dishonesty; misrepresenting his forum opponents. He did it to me recently instead of debating the point.