20 Jul 22
@fmf saidGod doesn’t judge us with what His eyes see, or His ears hear, instead by righteousness! Color coding by us for any judgments would not be by righteousness but through our prejudice.
Does that mean that it is your God figure who desires that Black people convicted of killing white people should be far more likely to be executed than the killers of Black people?
@kellyjay saidPlease share the scriptures, that speak of God not judging us with what He sees or hears us doing? Liar.
God doesn’t judge us with what His eyes see, or His ears hear, instead by righteousness! Color coding by us for any judgments would not be by righteousness but through our prejudice.
Color coding
Something you do daily; Just as above.
20 Jul 22
@kingdavid403 saidI would read the book of Isaiah start in chapter 3 it is there.
Please share the scriptures, that speak of God not judging us with what He sees or hears us doing? Liar.
20 Jul 22
@kellyjay saidYes we all seek truth and we each have our opinion on what that truth is.
So you say as if you are something more. We all seek truth, truth has a quality that all else does not, making it a part from everything else in even the smallest deviation. We are not the truth we proclaim, we can only give witness to it, and if what we accept isn’t than it isn’t, if is it is.
20 Jul 22
@divegeester saidOpinions can be checked against reality if they hold up fine, if not we learn something. Simply having an opinion is not a judgment on the subject matters truthfulness.
Yes we all seek truth and we each have our opinion on what that truth is.
@kellyjay saidI would read the book of Isaiah start in chapter 3 it is there. Nope, nothing there about 'God not judging us with what He sees or hears us doing.'
I would read the book of Isaiah start in chapter 3 it is there.
Maybe another scripture perhaps?
All of chapter 3 in Isaiah.
[Isaiah 3:1-26 NKJV] 1 For behold, the Lord, the LORD of hosts, Takes away from Jerusalem and from Judah The stock and the store, The whole supply of bread and the whole supply of water; 2 The mighty man and the man of war, The judge and the prophet, And the diviner and the elder; 3 The captain of fifty and the honorable man, The counselor and the skillful artisan, And the expert enchanter. 4 "I will give children [to be] their princes, And babes shall rule over them. 5 The people will be oppressed, Every one by another and every one by his neighbor; The child will be insolent toward the elder, And the base toward the honorable." 6 When a man takes hold of his brother In the house of his father, [saying], "You have clothing; You be our ruler, And [let] these ruins [be] under your power," 7 In that day he will protest, saying, "I cannot cure [your] ills, For in my house [is] neither food nor clothing; Do not make me a ruler of the people." 8 For Jerusalem stumbled, And Judah is fallen, Because their tongue and their doings [Are] against the LORD, To provoke the eyes of His glory. 9 The look on their countenance witnesses against them, And they declare their sin as Sodom; They do not hide [it]. Woe to their soul! For they have brought evil upon themselves. 10 "Say to the righteous that [it shall be] well [with them], For they shall eat the fruit of their doings. 11 Woe to the wicked! [It shall be] ill [with him], For the reward of his hands shall be given him. 12 [As for] My people, children [are] their oppressors, And women rule over them. O My people! Those who lead you cause [you] to err, And destroy the way of your paths." 13 The LORD stands up to plead, And stands to judge the people. 14 The LORD will enter into judgment With the elders of His people And His princes: "For you have eaten up the vineyard; The plunder of the poor [is] in your houses. 15 What do you mean by crushing My people And grinding the faces of the poor?" Says the Lord GOD of hosts. 16 Moreover the LORD says: "Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, And walk with outstretched necks And wanton eyes, Walking and mincing [as] they go, Making a jingling with their feet, 17 Therefore the Lord will strike with a scab The crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, And the LORD will uncover their secret parts." 18 In that day the Lord will take away the finery: The jingling anklets, the scarves, and the crescents; 19 The pendants, the bracelets, and the veils; 20 The headdresses, the leg ornaments, and the headbands; The perfume boxes, the charms, 21 and the rings; The nose jewels, 22 the festal apparel, and the mantles; The outer garments, the purses, 23 and the mirrors; The fine linen, the turbans, and the robes. 24 And so it shall be: Instead of a sweet smell there will be a stench; Instead of a sash, a rope; Instead of well-set hair, baldness; Instead of a rich robe, a girding of sackcloth; And branding instead of beauty. 25 Your men shall fall by the sword, And your mighty in the war. 26 Her gates shall lament and mourn, And she [being] desolate shall sit on the ground.
@kellyjay saidOpinions can be checked against reality
Opinions can be checked against reality if they hold up fine, if not we learn something. Simply having an opinion is not a judgment on the subject matters truthfulness.
Yes they can; so can lies and color coding.
20 Jul 22
@divegeester saidBump for Kellyjay
You have no moral nor biblical right to end someone’s life and send them straight to (your) hell for eternal suffering.
It’s eternal murder, it’s horrendous.
You will answer for their souls.
@divegeester saidKellyjay doesn't answer questions that will not make himself look as God, to himself.
Bump for Kellyjay
@divegeester saidI agree I don’t have the right to do that, that would be me taking the law in my own hands.
Bump for Kellyjay
@kingdavid403 saidMy bad I meant chapter 11, sorry. Verse 3 not chapter 3, I should have looked not go from memory.
I would read the book of Isaiah start in chapter 3 it is there. Nope, nothing there about 'God not judging us with what He sees or hears us doing.'
Maybe another scripture perhaps?
All of chapter 3 in Isaiah.
[Isaiah 3:1-26 NKJV] 1 For behold, the Lord, the LORD of hosts, Takes away from Jerusalem and from Judah The stock and the store, The whole supp ...[text shortened]... the war. 26 Her gates shall lament and mourn, And she [being] desolate shall sit on the ground.
@kingdavid403 saidI disagree completely KD403.
Kellyjay doesn't answer questions that will not make himself look as God, to himself.
Kellyjay avoids directly addressing questions which challenge his rigid, prideful, political/religious mindset.
I would not accuse him of thinking he is godlike.
@kellyjay said[Isaiah 11:1-10 KJV] 1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: 2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; 3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: 4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. 5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins. 6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. 7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. 8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. 9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea. 10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious."
My bad I meant chapter 11, sorry. Verse 3 not chapter 3, I should have looked not go from memory.
and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: 4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth:
So what does this mean to you?
It means that God is not going to judge by outward appearances, as many do judge the poor, meek, and others, by outward appearance's.
They judge by what kind of home you have, car you drive, cloths you wear, ones long-winded prayers in church that sound good, etc. God is saying here that none of that matters; God is going to judge us by what He sees and knows; which is truth and righteousness.
"in virtue of the spirit with which he is endowed, he shall not be dependent on the evidence of his senses, but shall immediately and infallibly discern the moral condition of men’s hearts,"
What say you?
@kingdavid403 saidI agree when we apply anything other than righteousness we slant justice towards our preferences.
[Isaiah 11:1-10 KJV] 1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: 2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; 3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and ...[text shortened]... ut shall immediately and infallibly discern the moral condition of men’s hearts [/b]
What say you?
@divegeester saidKellyjay avoids directly addressing questions which challenge his rigid, prideful, political/religious mindset.
I disagree completely KD403.
Kellyjay avoids directly addressing questions which challenge his rigid, prideful, political/religious mindset.
I would not accuse him of thinking he is godlike.
This is exactly what I meant. Which is someone who thinks that they are Godlike. That's why they have a "rigid, prideful, political/religious mindset."
One cannot learn anything, if they think they already know everything.
I would not accuse him of thinking he is godlike.
I would and I do.