20 Jun 07
Originally posted by RBHILLThat doesn't rule out the possibility that God was invented to control the masses. For example if a weapon is invented to control the masses and the masses rebel then it doesn't change the reason why the weapon was invented.
Wrong, I know for fact that they were not controled becasue they always rebeled.
In fact your statement implies that the 'God concept' does attempt to rule the masses or the masses wouldn't be rebelling.
20 Jun 07
Originally posted by epiphinehasBecause having meanings for things is "fitter" evolutionarily than not.
Why do human beings have a need for meaning in the first place? Or a need for God? Have you ever asked yourself whether or not the reason we might have these needs is because we were meant to? After all, if we were created for fellowship with God, without him would we not eventually in some way or another sense our incompleteness?
It's better to know why you get sick than not. It allows you to learn not to lick those spotty toads.
20 Jun 07
Originally posted by Jake EllisonThat's an excuse, not an explanation.
But when we don't have an explaination, God is good at filling the gaps and providing the explaination. At varying times in human history God has filled gaps that there is no way people of the time could have solved scientifically. So yeah we need an explantion, but that need is often what creates God.
20 Jun 07
Originally posted by scottishinnzWhen you say that a giant scarab bettle pushes the sun across the sky, it is an explanation. God is used to explan things that we don't know. Its always the perfect explaination because it can't be disproofed. I don't see how God is an excuse in this sence.
That's an excuse, not an explanation.
20 Jun 07
Originally posted by Jake EllisonLoosely it’s an explanation, a crap one, so I would be more inclined to say it’s an excuse for not thinking. Completely fabricating something does not make it a perfect explanation.
When you say that a giant scarab bettle pushes the sun across the sky, it is an explanation. God is used to explan things that we don't know. Its always the perfect explaination because it can't be disproofed. I don't see how God is an excuse in this sence.
21 Jun 07
Originally posted by Jake Ellison"God" is just a way of saying "we don't know", the cosmic equivalent of "a big boy did it and ran away".
When you say that a giant scarab bettle pushes the sun across the sky, it is an explanation. God is used to explan things that we don't know. Its always the perfect explaination because it can't be disproofed. I don't see how God is an excuse in this sence.
I don't hold that as a valid explanation, rather, as I say, I view it as an excuse, a way to avoid "don't know".
22 Jun 07
Originally posted by steponupThat would be true if God was interested in controlling you.
Religion and fear from what i've seen seem to go hand in hand.Is it not possible that god was invented to control the masses?
Unfortunately man is in the business of controlling the masses, and will use God when necessary.
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22 Jun 07
Originally posted by steponupYou may be on to something here. We have all evolved from some slime. Our lives are purely accidental and have no meaning except to eat, drink and be merry.😀
Religion and fear from what i've seen seem to go hand in hand.Is it not possible that god was invented to control the masses?
22 Jun 07
Originally posted by josephwBut if God is a concept invented by man rather than a real (but invisible and extremely choosy about who he will talk to) being then he does not have an interest in anything. A mental concept does not in itself have an interest. However, the concept can still have been created and used for a purpose.
That would be true if God was interested in controlling you.
Unfortunately man is in the business of controlling the masses, and will use God when necessary.
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23 Jun 07
Originally posted by PenguinIf God is a concept invented by man then nothing really matters.
But if God is a concept invented by man rather than a real (but invisible and extremely choosy about who he will talk to) being then he does not have an interest in anything. A mental concept does not in itself have an interest. However, the concept can still have been created and used for a purpose.
--- Penguin.