Is Jesus Willing?

Originally posted by Rajk999
You are copying the wrong man.
Nothing you say or teach demonstrates that your doctrine is of Christ.

You are copying the wrong man.

Would that you were a healthy older Christian brother that I could look up to and imitate.
Sorry, right now you're far, far from it.

Do you know how many local churches have been raised up around the world because of the ministry of Witness Lee ?

Forget it for now. How many has your ministry raised up ?

Originally posted by chaney3
Mark 1:40-45 tells the story of Jesus healing the man with leprosy. What's interesting about this account is in the way the man asked his question. He didn't just ask to be healed, he asked Jesus if He was 'willing' to heal him.

It's clear that God and/or Jesus can heal us....but are they willing to?

Any comments?

I think what speaks loudly here is the big "if" in the man's question. He knew Jesus had the power to heal him but did Jesus love him enough to heal him?
The question was answered as Jesus "touched" him.
Some commentaries say Jesus embraced him.
To better understand, you have to realize that a leper is not to be touched in any way.
They, by law, were required to yell "unclean" in public so people could avoid him.
The bible does not say how long this man went without ever touching another human being. Perhaps he had a family he had to abandon. Perhaps it had been years since he felt loved. Perhaps it had been years since this man embraced anyone.
I ponder at how distraught this man must have been.
To have Jesus touch him or embrace him must have shattered his misery. I can only imagine the thrill of having Jesus touch him.
Imagine the thoughts flooding his mind, going back to his family, being loved again.
Jesus answered his question when Jesus touched him. Yes, he was loved by Jesus, and yes, Jesus was willing to heal him.
Oh, and yes, Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever!

Originally posted by sonship
.There is a relationship between the church and the kingdom.
Notice it doesn't say anyone was cast out of the church. ..

What you make of this lecture from Paul to Christian Saints:

Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us,
and hath given himself for us an offering
and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness,
let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting,
which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man,
who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Let no man deceive you with vain words:
for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
(Ephesians 5:1-6 KJV)

You would do well to heed these words of Paul.
Here are the points:
1. Christ did his part
2. You as Saints must do yours
3. Avoid a life of sin otherwise you have no inheritance in the Kingdom of God
4. Dont be deceived by the teachings of men who tell you otherwise [like sonship]
5. God will destroy all disobedient Christian Saints
6. Anyone that preaches a DO NOTHING doctrine is a fool.

Take note and stop preaching false doctrines.
If you continue you will be in a very bad position .. a position worse off than an atheist.

Originally posted by sonship

You are copying the wrong man.

Would that you were a healthy older Christian brother that I could look up to and imitate.
Sorry, right now you're far, far from it.

Do you know how many local churches have been raised up around the world because of the ministry of Witness Lee ?

Forget it for now. How many has your ministry raised up ?

I dont want you or anyone to look up to me.
The fact that you could make such a statement means that you are a needy person.
If I come across anyone that looks up to me I will surely set them straight.

And as for Mr Lees churches. numbers mean nothing.
In fact the truth of Christ is for the chosen few on the narrow way leading to eternal life, not for the masses on the broad way leading to damnation.

I bet Satan has more followers ... maybe he is competing with Satan with that false doctrine pretending to follow Christ.

Originally posted by checkbaiter
I think what speaks loudly here is the big "if" in the man's question. He knew Jesus had the power to heal him but did Jesus love him enough to heal him?
The question was answered as Jesus "touched" him.
Some commentaries say Jesus embraced him.
To better understand, you have to realize that a leper is not to be touched in any way.
They, by law, we ...[text shortened]... es, Jesus was willing to heal him.
Oh, and yes, Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever!

Why the word willing?

Why did this leper think that Jesus may NOT be willing to heal him?

When we pray to Jesus, in 2017, should we wonder if He's willing to help?

Originally posted by chaney3
Why the word willing?

Why did this leper think that Jesus may NOT be willing to heal him?

When we pray to Jesus, in 2017, should we wonder if He's willing to help?

No, He is always willing. You should read what I wrote and think about it.
2 Cor 1:20
For all the promises of God in Him are Yes, and in Him Amen, to the glory of God through us.
NKJV

His promises are always yes. He also healed all who were oppressed by the devil.
Acts 10:38
how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.
NIV
Jesus is not only willing but able.

Originally posted by checkbaiter
No, He is always willing. You should read what I wrote and think about it.
[b]2 Cor 1:20
For all the promises of God in Him are Yes, and in Him Amen, to the glory of God through us.
NKJV

His promises are always yes. He also healed all who were oppressed by the devil.
Acts 10:38
how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and p ...[text shortened]... the power of the devil, because God was with him.
NIV
Jesus is not only willing but able.[/b]

If Jesus is always willing, then why did the leper pose his question in that manner?

Originally posted by chaney3
If Jesus is always willing, then why did the leper pose his question in that manner?

As I explained;

'Not sure here why you are transferring the language of the leper on to Jesus. - It is more likely that the leper (in no short part due to his leprosy) was accustomed to people 'not' being willing to help him. It is not at all surprising he would approach Jesus tentatively in regards to his willingness to help.'

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
As I explained;

'Not sure here why you are transferring the language of the leper on to Jesus. - It is more likely that the leper (in no short part due to his leprosy) was accustomed to people 'not' being willing to help him. It is not at all surprising he would approach Jesus tentatively in regards to his willingness to help.'

I disagree.

I think there may be a message here about when and why Jesus helps.

Originally posted by chaney3
I disagree.

I think there may be a message here about when and why Jesus helps.

You going to ignore all my replies to you?

Originally posted by divegeester
You going to ignore all my replies to you?

Do you think that Jesus chooses who He will help?

And more importantly, does He ignore others?

Originally posted by chaney3
Do you think that Jesus chooses who He will help?

And more importantly, does He ignore others?

I've answered already. Are you going to respond to the content of those posts.

Originally posted by divegeester
No it doesn't. As usual you are reading your immaturity into the text, instead of reading what is actually there. You don't know your Bible anywhere near well enough to troll the Christians in here.

Give me one example of where Jesus refused to heal someone?

There is an account where he left a town because of their lack of faith, and there is also an account of how someone apparently healed themself just but touching him.

In this post Dive, you have provided no insight that is worthy of discussion.

Originally posted by chaney3
In this post Dive, you have provided no insight that is worthy of discussion.

I made several replies, its poor forum etiquette not to respond.

This one you are replying to is challenging you to come up with some evidence for your bullshlt claims.

You can not bother of course, if it's too difficult.

Originally posted by divegeester
I made several replies, its poor forum etiquette not to respond.

This one you are replying to is challenging you to come up with some evidence for your bullshlt claims.

You can not bother of course, if it's too difficult.

I asked a simple question.

Does Jesus not answer prayer because He is not willing?

Would you like to respond, or play more games?