02 Jun 16
Originally posted by FMFExactly how long might you think it will take for a majority of the world's population to have these things?
I would concur and add the hope that more and more people can take more control of their lives and enjoy more security and stability through improved health and access to quality education, justice and human rights.
Originally posted by SuzianneIt's happening apace as we speak. The process is the thing. People working towards it gives hope. Don't worry, the world is not about to end ~ as you'd have us believe ~ so it's not as if all these processes must run their course in your lifetime. You asking "exactly" how long it will take seems a bit strange. It'd be like asking you 'when "exactly" will the world end?'
Exactly how long might you think it will take for a majority of the world's population to have these things?
02 Jun 16
Originally posted by FMFWould it be fair to state that you are a humanist FMF?
It's happening apace as we speak. The process is the thing. People working towards it gives hope. Don't worry, the world is not about to end ~ as you'd have us believe ~ so it's not as if all these processes must run their course in your lifetime. You asking "exactly" how long it will take seems a bit strange. It'd be like asking you 'when "exactly" will the world end?'
02 Jun 16
Originally posted by SuzianneNot really because we can all agree that "dark places" and "light-bulbs" exist.
This is like asking, "Aside from its use in dark places, is there any use for the light bulb?"
It is more like asking "Aside from guarding the Fairy Palace, is there any use for armed pixies?"
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSomething that happens to every single human who ever lived - death, for example - is certainly "natural". Cancer is "natural" but people don't "welcome it and rejoice".
If dying was natural we would welcome it and rejoice, no one rejoices about having to lose a loved one.
Originally posted by wolfgang59The eyes on your emoticon express well your thinking....confused.
1. Quite a few people on this forum have argued quite forcefully
that they do not wish to live forever. So you are wrong on that point.
(And btw: who made you spokesperson for mankind??)
2. Man or mankind (if that is what you mean) was not created and has no purpose.
3. Think you might be wrong on that one too. 🙄
Our Creator made us to live.
To begin with there was no death option.
When Adam sinned he brought death to all of his offspring (us).
(Romans 5:12) That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned—.
Thankfully God did not abandon us.
Rather, out of loyal love our Creator, Jehovah God, paid a fine (the ransom sacrifice of His First born Son) to buy us back from sin and death.
Now we can gain everlasting life again (it's not automatic though).
(Romans 6:23) For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.
03 Jun 16
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemIt's only inevitable until Jehovah God ends death.
Dying is natural. It is the Ego's desire to preserve itself (because it is so special) that creates a struggle with the inevitable.
(Revelation 21:4, 5) And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.” 5 And the One seated on the throne said: “Look! I am making all things new.” Also he says: “Write, for these words are faithful and true.”
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf by humanist you mean a person who takes "...a philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and generally prefers critical thinking and evidence (rationalism, empiricism) over acceptance of dogma or superstition.", then of course I am. What a strange ~ and presumably disingenuous - question for you to suddenly ask after a decade of reading my posts. Has your latest copy of The Watchtower mentioned the word "humanist" or something?
Would it be fair to state that you are a humanist FMF?
Originally posted by roigamDid your creator figure not foresee the events that resulted in the "death option" He also created being activated? If you think He did, then it's not very logical or honest for you to claim that "Our Creator made us to live". It's like claiming that manufacturers create light bulbs to last forever when they clearly don't.
Our Creator made us to live. To begin with there was no death option.
You are dissecting an ancient Hebrew fairy tale and basing deluded, self-serving assertions upon it. These kinds of things may give you some sort of hope for what ever personal reasons or psychological circumstances you happen to have, but one can hardly, credibly contend that such fantasies constitute "hope for mankind" in any real sense or produce anything other than conjecture about fears and dreams and your impotence and endless talk about your conjecture about fear and dreams and your impotence.
03 Jun 16
Originally posted by roigamI wonder why those who were paid to rewrite the Bible for the JWs decided to also prune it of almost all of its glory to God.
It's only inevitable until Jehovah God ends death.
(Revelation 21:4, 5) And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.” 5 And the One seated on the throne said: “Look! I am making all things new.” Also he says: “Write, for these words are faithful and true.”