Is this God's eternal plan?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
@sonship said

The eternal plan of God is that God would be SEEN in that God would be (if you will) WE-IZED. God would mass produce the mingling of humanity and divinity of the Firstborn Son of God.


Do other Christians recognize the above as God's eternal plan, as laid out in scripture? Or has sonship completely lost the plot?

I think we see God's plan in Jesus' prayer in John 17

“I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me. Father, I desire that they also, whom you have given me, may be with me where I am, to see my glory that you have given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world. O righteous Father, even though the world does not know you, I know you, and these know that you have sent me. I made known to them your name, and I will continue to make it known, that the love with which you have loved me may be in them, and I in them.”

@kellyjay said
I think we see God's plan in Jesus' prayer in John 17

“I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be on ...[text shortened]... ontinue to make it known, that the love with which you have loved me may be in them, and I in them.”

So your answer is no, you do not recognize sonship's eternal plan, that God wanted to mass produce the mingling of humanity and divinity of the Firstborn Son of God?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
So your answer is no, you do not recognize sonship's eternal plan, that God wanted to mass produce the mingling of humanity and divinity of the Firstborn Son of God?

I think God is raising humanity to be His sons and daughters, a royal priesthood. I have no idea what sonship's plan is. Christ in us our hope for glory means we are partakers in God's nature. That isn't something we can get good enough for; it has to be a gift from God. We cannot think our way into God's favor; we cannot give enough stuff to get into God's favor, we cannot do enough good works to get into God's favor, it has be God's grace and mercy, which is much better, He is a sure foundation there is nothing in this we can trust as we can Him.

Colossians 1:27
To them God chose to make known how great among the Gentiles are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.

@kellyjay said
I have no idea what sonship's plan is.

So you’ve not been reading any of his posts over the past few years? Not reading any of the replies to his assertions? Not wondering what all the noise is about? And you’re claiming you “have no idea” what he’s been on about?

I don’t believe you KellyJay.

@divegeester said
So you’ve not been reading any of his posts over the past few years? Not reading any of the replies to his assertions? Not wondering what all the noise is about? And you’re claiming you “have no idea” what he’s been on about?

I don’t believe you KellyJay.

I read him but not everything he writes no. Typically, his posts get filled with stuff from you and others who spend more time talking about him than what he says. You do that a lot with most posters; you talk about them, not the things they say, as you are doing with me now.

@kellyjay said
I read him but not everything he writes no. Typically, his posts get filled with stuff from you and others who spend more time talking about him than what he says. You do that a lot with most posters; you talk about them, not the things they say, as you are doing with me now.

So even though you can make this assessment of what his posts “typically get filled with”, you still maintain that you don’t know anything at all about what his beliefs on the deification of man are?

@divegeester said
So even though you can make this assessment of what his posts “typically get filled with”, you still maintain that you don’t know anything at all about what his beliefs on the deification of man are?

I told you already that it is not my problem if you believe it or not.

@kellyjay said
I think God is raising humanity to be His sons and daughters, a royal priesthood. I have no idea what sonship's plan is. Christ in us our hope for glory means we are partakers in God's nature. That isn't something we can get good enough for; it has to be a gift from God. We cannot think our way into God's favor; we cannot give enough stuff to get into God's favor, we cannot ...[text shortened]... the Gentiles are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.

I told you what sonship's plan was in the OP and asked if you agreed with it. I didn't ask what your plan was.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I told you what sonship's plan was in the OP and asked if you agreed with it. I didn't ask what your plan was.

I will read this from the beginning.

@kellyjay said
I will read this from the beginning.

All that is required is for you to read the first (short) post, grow a pair, and share your view on what sonship has said he believes.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
All that is required is for you to read the first (short) post, grow a pair, and share your view on what sonship has said he believes.

A pair of what?

I was going to post that I was glad to see you posting again, but now I'm feeling rather disappointed.

@kevin-eleven said
A pair of what?

I was going to post that I was glad to see you posting again, but now I'm feeling rather disappointed.

Ditto

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Ditto

Likewise, I'm sure.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
All that is required is for you to read the first (short) post, grow a pair, and share your view on what sonship has said he believes.

You can stick your attitude in your ear. I said I would read this. Your interpretation and what he is saying may not be the same thing.

@kellyjay said
You can stick your attitude in your ear. I said I would read this. Your interpretation and what he is saying may not be the same thing.

I didn't give an interpretation. I quoted exactly what he had written and asked if people agreed with it. True to form you dodge. If Rajk had posted such nonsense you'd be all over it.