08 Mar 22
@ghost-of-a-duke saidZzz
I didn't give an interpretation. I quoted exactly what he had written and asked if people agreed with it. True to form you dodge. If Rajk had posted such nonsense you'd be all over it.
08 Mar 22
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI believe I already answered this looking back at this thread. If I understand sonship, I agree in principle that God enters our lives literally as we are adopted into the Kingdom of God. So I guess you can put me in the yes column if you have questions; feel free to ask; there is no need to get insulting.
I told you what sonship's plan was in the OP and asked if you agreed with it. I didn't ask what your plan was.
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09 Mar 22
@kevin-eleven saidHe’s got a bad case of the horny’s tonight.
You're addicted to excitement, aren't you?
I feel sorry for whatever mammal wearing beer goggles crosses his path tonight.
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@pb1022 saidI believe that Dive seeks the North Star more ardently than you do, or at least that he has more potential to do so than a craven Midwestern crop-sniffer.
He’s got a bad case of the horny’s tonight.
I feel sorry for whatever mammal wearing beer goggles crosses his path tonight.
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09 Mar 22
@kevin-eleven saidI don’t live in the Midwest and nothing else he wrote about me is true either, but believe what you will.
I believe that Dive seeks the North Star more ardently than you do, or at least that he has more potential to do so than a craven Midwestern crop-sniffer.
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Leet's come back to a little more substance.
Here's the OP.
The eternal plan of God is that God would be SEEN in that God would be (if you will) WE-IZED. God would mass produce the mingling of humanity and divinity of the Firstborn Son of God.
Do other Christians recognize the above as God's eternal plan, as laid out in scripture? Or has sonship completely lost the plot?
Has the writer of this OP lost the plot and theme entirely by not believing that God exists?
I say God exists. That's the first thing in concurrence with the plot of the Bible - God brought everything ELSE into existence.
"All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him not one things came into being which has come into being." ( John 1:3)
Has Ghost totally lost the plot from the start by being one denying the existence of God?
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Ghost writes:
Do other Christians recognize the above as God's eternal plan, as laid out in scripture? Or has sonship completely lost the plot?
Has Ghost any ground to accuse me of loosing the plot of the Bible when he says there is no God ?
All other things came into being through God. (John 1:3) So if anything exists at all there must be God.
He calls all things not being as being.
" . . . in the sight of God whom he believed, who gives life to the dead and calls the things not being as being." (Rom. 4:17b)
What ground does this atheist have of saying a believer in God has lost the plot when he doesn't believe it is God ultimately who called other things into being?
09 Mar 22
@sonship saidLook up the definition of the logical fallacy called Ad Hominem.
Has Ghost totally lost the plot from the start by being one denying the existence of God?
This question of yours is a textbook example.
Mr S says: 'No need to address idea X posited by Mr Y because Mr Y [INSERT HERE SOME PERSONAL OR DISMISSIVE ASSERTION ABOUT MrY THAT Mr S THINKS EXCUSES HIM FROM HAVING TO ADDRESS IDEA X]
A textbook ad hominem. Look it up.
You are one of the most prolific users of logical fallacies on this forum. A lot of what you type relies very heavily on them.
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I consider FMF's post just distraction on behalf of teacm atheism.
The point is that the question "Is this God's eternal plan?" asked to Christians, I think has to be answered that Romans 8:30 show glorification as a culmination of God's eternal plan.
Some may not want to call glorification as deification.
But it is to express the life of God in God-men who are brothers of the Firstborn
Son of God.
They do not share His Godhead.
They share His destiny of "His [God's] eternal glory in Christ Jesus" (1 Pet. 5:10)
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By the way - Ghost losing the plot of the Bible and specifically Romans 8:30 is no ad hom. Its just notification that the plot of the NT has been missed.
The God deniers as of yet cannot re-write that we were called by the God of grace into His eternal glory in Christ Jesus. So posting style or ediquette is used as red herring to distract from the failure.
@sonship saidI didn't have to consult a dictionary.
Noted that you didn't rush to the dictionary to look up Ad Hom after the OP asked if I had lost the plot.
The "plot" of the Bible has been discussed here for as long as this forum has existed.
The OP is asking if you have lost sight of what that "plot" is in light of your fringe beliefs regarding the deification of human beings.
Is the "plot" of the Bible that humans become Godmen?
The OP poster can ask you about this legitimately, given his interest in theology, without you attempting to dismiss his scrutiny on account of his atheism.
Why do you react so badly to discussion, dissent, and diversity?
This is a message board, not a blog.
It's as if you just want to blog.