Isaiah 53 - Messianic Prophecy?

For anyone truly interested in understanding the truth about Isaiah 53, I suggest the following article which is cogently argued. Following are excerpts from the prelude and a link to the article. It should be read in its entirety. :

Isaiah 53 – A Jewish Perspective

Before engaging in an examination of Isaiah 53 itself, some preliminary issues must be considered. First is the issue of circular reasoning. Even if we interpret the chapter as the Christians do (forgetting for a minute the mistranslations and distortions of context which will be noted below), the most that could be said is this: Isaiah 53 is about someone who dies for the sins of others. People may have seen Jesus die, but did anyone see him die as an atonement for the sins of others? Of course not; this is simply the meaning which the New Testament gives to his death. Only if you already accept the New Testament teaching that his death had a non-visible, spiritual significance can you than go back to Isaiah and say, “see – the Prophet predicted what I already believe.”...

Second (and consistent with all Jewish teaching at the time), Jesus’ own disciples didn’t view Isaiah 53 as a messianic prophecy. For example, after Peter identifies Jesus as the Messiah (Matt. 16:16), he is informed that Jesus will be killed (Matt. 16:21). His response: “God forbid it, lord! This shall never happen to you” (Matt. 16:22)...Even Jesus didn’t see Isaiah 53 as crucial to his messianic claims – why else did he call the Jews children of the devil for not believing in him before the alleged resurrection (Jn. 8:39-47)? And why did he later request that God “remove this cup from me” (Mk. 14:36) – didn’t he know that a “removal of the cup” would violate the gentile understanding of Isaiah 53?

And third, even if we accept the gentile Christian interpretation of Isaiah 53, where is it indicated (either in Isaiah 53 or anywhere else in our Jewish Scriptures) that you must believe in this “Messiah” to get the benefits?

https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/isaiah-53-a-jewish-perspective/

Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
Yep, it's sad, but we r all lost souls so...

Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
Not all souls can b saved.

Originally posted by @thinkofone
For anyone truly interested in understanding the truth about Isaiah 53, I suggest the following article which is cogently argued. Following are excerpts from the prelude and a link to the article. It should be read in its entirety. :

Isaiah 53 – A Jewish Perspective

Before engaging in an examination of Isaiah 53 itself, some preliminary issues ...[text shortened]... its?

https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/isaiah-53-a-jewish-perspective/

Originally posted by @thinkofone
Only those that humbly and earnestly seek truth and righteousness can be saved.

Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
Not all souls can b saved.

Originally posted by @romans1009
I think this article might neglect a few verses in its verse-by-verse examination of Isaiah 53, but I disagree with some of the conclusions drawn from verses it examines.

Originally posted by @rajk999
I have stated clearly many times before, that :
- I do not know neither do I care what Christians actually do.
- I discuss the doctrine of Christ and the Apostles
- I compare what Christians PREACH and DISCUSS with what I believe the Bible says

So what I said is as follows
- The doctrine of some Christians encourage sin and evil and discourage right ...[text shortened]... o irrelevant
Who cares.
90% of your comments and contributions are irrelevant and nonsensical.

Originally posted by @thinkofone
Only those that humbly and earnestly seek truth and righteousness can be saved.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
What is truth?

Originally posted by @suzianne
Of course, because it is titled "A Jewish Perspective", not "A Christian Perspective".

Originally posted by @rajk999
A doctrine that says all sins are forgiven and eternal life is guaranteed no matter what the person does, is a doctrine that encourages sin.

I dont need to know what Christians do neither do I need to ponder anything.

Originally posted by @thinkofone
The author presents a cogent argument. Can you?

Originally posted by @suzianne
I happen to think this "cogent argument" only applies to Jews. I'm not a Jew, and, frankly, I'm not listening to any Jews trying to tell me how to be a Christian. Again, they don't believe in Jesus, so why do you think they bring ANYthing to the table on how to be a Christian?

Originally posted by @suzianne
In case you haven't figured it out by now, no one here is advocating what you say they're advocating and no one has that doctrine you are claiming they have.

"Calling them out" for something they're not actually doing is just you trying to judge them for something in your own head.

And at the worst, it's just lying about them. They also call that "bearing false witness" against your neighbor. How many sins do you thinks that racks up?