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Suzianne
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Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
You've been accused of Tyranny!! lol . Your words clearly intimitade them 😉
What flavor is that intimitade? Lemon? Lime? Or maybe cherry?

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Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
Well there you go. Reading and praying are clearly not enough
No, one must believe.

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Originally posted by @fmf
"Pushing beliefs as facts will keep you in the dark." ~ KellyJay
You believe that each person doesn't have their own views about what and who God is?

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Originally posted by @suzianne
The problem here is that it is you who needs to "engage in logical discussion".

KJ is right. Your post was fatuous wishing, and had zero to do with salvation. Your "three ways to salvation" are simply wrong, and you spend your time in that post making fun of God's grace through faith, which you call "a mere abstraction, a vague notion that no one has ...[text shortened]... m is unconscionable. You simply do not know what you are talking about, and KJ knows that, too.
Twice you say here that I or my points are wrong but give no argument as to why.
So you fancy yourself agood debater? lol

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Originally posted by @fmf
So the point that Jesus made when he made up the Good Samaritan story is the point you want and need it to be so that you can cite Jesus when you assert the validity of the point you want to make, is that how it works?
I have no idea what you are talking about here, the story of the Good Samaritan I have no
issue with as its written, the liberties taken with the life and death of people in it compared
to real people were not mentioned in the story, that was what I had issues with. Leave the
text as is and speak to it, if you add too or take away from scripture to make a point that is
not scripture speaking but you.

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Originally posted by @suzianne
What flavor is that intimitade? Lemon? Lime? Or maybe cherry?
Dream flavour

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Originally posted by @rajk999
That is just BS talk.
Really, you think I can take credit for Jesus' mercy? Do you take credit for Jesus' mercy?

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Originally posted by @suzianne
No, one must believe.
You are agreeing with me? Yes? C'mon... dont be shy Darlin'

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Originally posted by @fmf
Hang on a minute! Do you mean to say that while you expect people to believe everything you say about your own Christian life and family is true but you are willing to try to brand me publically as a liar who has lied here for over a decade about everything I have said about my Christian life and family... you think that isn't you claiming to be better than me? Good grief, you are a piece of work, KellyJay.
Okay, if you want to believe I'm worthy of Christ in my own righteous go ahead, I'm not, you
can believe what you will.

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Originally posted by @divegeester
Alternatively...

I do think I’m better than most in here but I’m only better because Jesus has made me better, I don’t take the credit for being better than others.
Well if you think you are better than most here that is on you, I know I am not, and don't
believe you are either.

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Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
actually? Really? . . . .. feel free to engage in a logical discussion anytime. My previous post outlined 3 different ways of knowing God. You have " ,,Gods grace through faith. " . I know what you think this means but without being able to explain it , it remains a mere abstraction , a vague notion that no one has ever testified to
You never heard anyone explain saved by grace through faith before, really?

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Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
Bout 25 times a day... how is that relevant?
Wasn't talking to you, but if that is you...oh my...out of the abundance of the heart the
mouth speaks...you have some nasty heart there.

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Originally posted by @sonhouse
Just listen to yourself sometime, worshiping man made gods, it is really sad. Ok for Muslims to kill infidels and Christians are on the top of the list for that even though they worship the exact same man made god.

I would LOVE for a REAL god to come down and straiten them out😉

Of course that would never happen since humanity is under quarantine if ...[text shortened]... ike. The REAL gods must be having a great belly laugh over all this, assuming they have bellies.
I've never met a single Muslim in person who had a deep seated problem with Christians. Indeed, I tend to actually bond with Muslims intensely over these facts.

On another chess forum that I posted on, I was always on the same side as Muslims in virtually every debate, and never was attacked for the specifics of my belief. Oh, I knew they disagreed with me on those things, but we were really a united front like you wouldn't believe. It totally changed my worldview.

I think I'll go post there sometime this week when work cools down & check in with them.

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Originally posted by @divegeester
Alternatively...

I do think I’m better than most in here but I’m only better because Jesus has made me better, I don’t take the credit for being better than others.
I do think I’m better than most in here but I’m only better because Jesus has made me better, I don’t take the credit for being better than others. Also I will go to heaven with Jesus just because I professed my belief and all others will be tormented for eternity because they did not profess any belief in Him.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
You never heard anyone explain saved by grace through faith before, really?
Saved by Grace through faith does not automatically mean eternal life in the Kingdom of God. Paul went to great lengths to explain this to the churches in his letters. They are two different things.

You would like to think that it does because you are a lazy [apparently rich as well] Christian who dislikes good works and righteousness. You simply want live a self-centered life and do the lip service thing and hope that will work. Well you are mistaken.

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