13 Aug 17
Originally posted by @kellyjayThere is only one first time Pharaoh's heart is hardened.
Believe it or not there is more than one scripture in the Bible, in additionally both can actually be true at the same time. God can cause actually cause Pharaoh's heart to be hard by doing something that causes Pharaoh to harden his own heart.
God states that he will do it and the text supports the statement.
You can call God a liar if you wish, but I will not.
Your view of God is rooted in man. It is why you call suzi sister.
13 Aug 17
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Originally posted by @eladaredit:misread
There is only one first time Pharaoh's heart is hardened.
God states that he will do it and the text supports the statement.
You can call God a liar if you wish, but I will not.
Your view of God is rooted in man. It is why you call suzi sister.
Originally posted by @eladarI don't call God names, looking at some of the threads you have started calling Jesus names is what you do. You don't grasp scripture, you don't show that you care about people, you spend your time here looking for faults and condemning people. One day you will stand before the you have been calling names. and if you have been faithful, forgiving, and obeying the Lord it will be clear. If not?
There is only one first time Pharaoh's heart is hardened.
God states that he will do it and the text supports the statement.
You can call God a liar if you wish, but I will not.
Your view of God is rooted in man. It is why you call suzi sister.
14 Aug 17
Originally posted by @kellyjayI am simply pointing out how people like you honestly see God.
I don't call God names, looking at some of the threads you have started calling Jesus names is what you do. You don't grasp scripture, you don't show that you care about people, you spend your time here looking for faults and condemning people. One day you will stand before the you have been calling names. and if you have been faithful, forgiving, and obeying the Lord it will be clear. If not?
Everything I have pointed out in these threads is absolutely true from your perspective. You just like to pretend.
14 Aug 17
Originally posted by @eladarTrue from my perspective, no, not even close.
I am simply pointing out how people like you honestly see God.
Everything I have pointed out in these threads is absolutely true from your perspective. You just like to pretend.
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14 Aug 17
Originally posted by @eladarYou seem to be struggling with basic arithmetic, Pharoah hardened his own heart in Exodus 8, God then hardened it further in Exodus 9. God doesn't lie, people who try to twist scripture to fit their doctrine do the lying.
So God lied. God did not harden Pharaoh's heart. Paul lied too.
At least you get props for using scripture.
Here is the first hardening...
Yet Pharaoh’s heart became hard and he would not listen to them, just as the Lord had said.
God or Pharaoh?
14 Aug 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerExodus 7New International Version (NIV)
You seem to be struggling with basic arithmetic, Pharoah hardened his own heart in Exodus 8, God then hardened it further in Exodus 9. God doesn't lie, people who try to twist scripture to fit their doctrine do the lying.
7 Then the Lord said to Moses, “See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet. 2 You are to say everything I command you, and your brother Aaron is to tell Pharaoh to let the Israelites go out of his country. 3 But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and though I multiply my signs and wonders in Egypt, 4 he will not listen to you. Then I will lay my hand on Egypt and with mighty acts of judgment I will bring out my divisions, my people the Israelites. 5 And the Egyptians will know that I am the Lord when I stretch out my hand against Egypt and bring the Israelites out of it.”
6 Moses and Aaron did just as the Lord commanded them. 7 Moses was eighty years old and Aaron eighty-three when they spoke to Pharaoh.
Aaron’s Staff Becomes a Snake
8 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, 9 “When Pharaoh says to you, ‘Perform a miracle,’ then say to Aaron, ‘Take your staff and throw it down before Pharaoh,’ and it will become a snake.”
10 So Moses and Aaron went to Pharaoh and did just as the Lord commanded. Aaron threw his staff down in front of Pharaoh and his officials, and it became a snake. 11 Pharaoh then summoned wise men and sorcerers, and the Egyptian magicians also did the same things by their secret arts: 12 Each one threw down his staff and it became a snake. But Aaron’s staff swallowed up their staffs. 13 Yet Pharaoh’s heart became hard and he would not listen to them, just as the Lord had said.
Will you take correction or continue in error?
14 Aug 17
Originally posted by @eladarNo one is denying this, you are just not grasping all that is going on during that and this time.
Exodus 7New International Version (NIV)
7 Then the Lord said to Moses, “See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet. 2 You are to say everything I command you, and your brother Aaron is to tell Pharaoh to let the Israelites go out of his country. 3 But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and though I multiply my signs ...[text shortened]... listen to them, just as the Lord had said.
Will you take correction or continue in error?