Originally posted by @dj2beckerOk, then GOD hardened the pharaoah's heart, whatever that means. Literally, your heart can no longer pump, being turned into a hard cyst. It could mean emotionally.
No one is denying that God further hardened Pharoahs heart. God knew that he would harden his own heart so God hardened it further. Would you agree that someone who chooses to disobey God hardens their heart? Did Pharoah choose to disobey God? Or did God make the choice for him?
But why would this deity harden the Pharoah's heart but not dictators that came later like Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Hitler, and the Turks who did the Armenian holocaust? Your god is only part time in that aspect? It doesn't care that the later holocausts were against Jews and Christians? By the tens of millions? No big deal to this god but the PHAROAH really TICKED him off?
Why can't you see a problem with that plot line?
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Originally posted by @sonhouseEveryone will pay for the choices they have made. It seems you have a problem with God being in charge. And I am fully aware that you may still feel pain and anger and have so many questions over a loved one you may have lost. But God knows best and can use any incident to accomplish something good even if we can't see it from where we are at.
Ok, then GOD hardened the pharaoah's heart, whatever that means. Literally, your heart can no longer pump, being turned into a hard cyst. It could mean emotionally.
But why would this deity harden the Pharoah's heart but not dictators that came later like Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Hitler, and the Turks who did the Armenian holocaust? Your god is only part time ...[text shortened]... s god but the PHAROAH really TICKED him off?
Why can't you see a problem with that plot line?
14 Aug 17
Originally posted by @sonhouseGod being in charge allows us to walk out our lives as we see fit. This means we choose who to follow, and how we act. The evil we do to ourselves is on us. Repentance towards God would have us treating each other as we want to be treated.
Ok, then GOD hardened the pharaoah's heart, whatever that means. Literally, your heart can no longer pump, being turned into a hard cyst. It could mean emotionally.
But why would this deity harden the Pharoah's heart but not dictators that came later like Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Hitler, and the Turks who did the Armenian holocaust? Your god is only part time ...[text shortened]... s god but the PHAROAH really TICKED him off?
Why can't you see a problem with that plot line?
Because we can be very evil simply shows what we are capable of.
14 Aug 17
Originally posted by @kellyjayAll well and good but why would your god intervene with the Pharoah but not a situation, several situations, involving a thousand times as many people? That tells me it cherry picks what it wants to help with as far as humans are concerned. Or theory #2, the whole tale was BS in the first place. I assume you coudn't accept that. which means you would be cherry picking the bible yourself, right?
God being in charge allows us to walk out our lives as we see fit. This means we choose who to follow, and how we act. The evil we do to ourselves is on us. Repentance towards God would have us treating each other as we want to be treated.
Because we can be very evil simply shows what we are capable of.
15 Aug 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerGod hardened Pharaoh's heart the first time.
No one is denying that God further hardened Pharoahs heart. God knew that he would harden his own heart so God hardened it further. Would you agree that someone who chooses to disobey God hardens their heart? Did Pharoah choose to disobey God? Or did God make the choice for him?
15 Aug 17
Originally posted by @sonhouseHe wanted to prove a point to a people He was going to use to bring Christ into the world.
All well and good but why would your god intervene with the Pharoah but not a situation, several situations, involving a thousand times as many people? That tells me it cherry picks what it wants to help with as far as humans are concerned. Or theory #2, the whole tale was BS in the first place. I assume you coudn't accept that. which means you would be cherry picking the bible yourself, right?
15 Aug 17
Originally posted by @eladar14 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Pharaoh's heart is hardened; he refuses to let the people go.
Is there anything in chapter 7 to support Pharaoh hardening his own heart?
As you pointed out, when we refuse God we harden our hearts. He was digging in not
wanting to do what God was telling him.
15 Aug 17
Originally posted by @eladarIt is throughout scripture where God gives us choices, God wouldn't have to tell anyone to
Where in the Bible does it say we have free will?
obey and not sin if we didn't have the ability to do both. If God says this is the way walk
ye in it, why do that if we didn't have choice?
15 Aug 17
Originally posted by @kellyjayYou have no real basis for your beliefs. They are rooted in what seems right to you. It allows you to claim anything without having to support it with scripture.
You need a quote about God saying do this and do not do that?
Read the 10 Commandments.
You stand on sinking sand.
