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@KingDavid403 saidThe Book of Enoch mentions 7 archangels by name, I believe.
What about the Archangel Gabriel? Satan was the Archangel of worship. There are clearly other Archangel's beside Michael. There is only One Lord and His name in English is Jesus.
"The Archangel Gabriel is a messenger of God in the Abrahamic religions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Gabriel's role varies by religion, but some of his most important duties includ ...[text shortened]... , the New Testament, the Quran, and the Kitáb-i-Aqdas. His feast day is celebrated on September 29."
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1. And these are the names of the holy angels who watch. 2. Uriel, one of the holy angels, who is over the world and over Tartarus. 3. Raphael, one of the holy angels, who is over the spirits of men. 4. Raguel, one of the holy angels who takes vengeance on the world of the luminaries. 5. Michael, one of the holy angels, to wit, he that is set over the best part of mankind and over chaos. 6. Saraqâêl, one of the holy angels, who is set over the spirits, who sin in the spirit. 7. Gabriel, one of the holy angels, who is over Paradise and the serpents and the Cherubim. 8. Remiel, one of the holy angels, whom God set over those who rise.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidIf we assume God exists and he sent Christ to die for the sins of the world, and this is the free gift of justification to all men, then if only a few million will be saved from Adam to the end of time, then God has failed. So I dont think this narrow interpretation of the bible that some churches promote is correct.
God doesn't exist of course, but if He/She did, and did actually want to save all humankind, then I suspect they would make themselves equally (rather than geographically) accessible to everybody. That being the case, all sects, indeed all religions, would lead to God. (Like varying paths up a mountain).
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@divegeester saidOoh look he thumbed me down, so he must have some cell signal ….
Looks like @Galveston75 is “visiting relatives” again 🙂
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@Rajk999 saidAnd if we throw into the mix the strong likelihood there is intelligent life on other planets in other galaxies, then salvation would have a much wider net. (If they share the same creator).
If we assume God exists and he sent Christ to die for the sins of the world, and this is the free gift of justification to all men, then if only a few million will be saved from Adam to the end of time, then God has failed. So I dont think this narrow interpretation of the bible that some churches promote is correct.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidOf course. God and all the angels are out there making worlds as we speak. Every single one of those galaxies must have at least one planet with life ... trillions of them. Each would have had their specific rules about how salvation is to be worked out. Interesting stuff which will all be revealed at some point.
And if we throw into the mix the strong likelihood there is intelligent life on other planets in other galaxies, then salvation would have a much wider net. (If they share the same creator).
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@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidWhy, do you think there is a strong likelihood of other intelligent life out there?
And if we throw into the mix the strong likelihood there is intelligent life on other planets in other galaxies, then salvation would have a much wider net. (If they share the same creator).
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidYou show me the variables that say it is a given first. You don't know how it all started or even if it did (which is impossible) so you have no idea why things are the way they are to make that type of judgment call. It is like most things about reality that have to do with beginnings, you assume much, life must have started from non-life with every experience we have had that says life always comes from life, you have no idea how everything came to be so on assumptions you count as facts you make proclamations as if they were facts, you got nothing.
Do the math Kelly.
I dare say you cannot even calculate the math on life showing up here.
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@KellyJay saidThere are at least 2 trillion galaxies in the universe, each containing a probable 800 billion to 3.2 trillion planets. Think about that for a moment, let it sink in.
You show me the variables that say it is a given first. You don't know how it all started or even if it did (which is impossible) so you have no idea why things are the way they are to make that type of judgment call. It is like most things about reality that have to do with beginnings, you assume much, life must have started from non-life with every experience we have had ...[text shortened]... re facts, you got nothing.
I dare say you cannot even calculate the math on life showing up here.
The idea that Earth is the only one that contains life is laughable. (Not only scientifically, but also religiously, with a creator God creating such an immense universe and only putting life on one planet).
Edit: The above is a checkmate answer. Collect your pieces and leave the room.
@KellyJay saidYou dont need math. What you need to know is that there is a God. You beieve in a God that made life on one planet, took him 6 working days, and then closed down the creation factory? I dont think so.
You show me the variables that say it is a given first. You don't know how it all started or even if it did (which is impossible) so you have no idea why things are the way they are to make that type of judgment call. It is like most things about reality that have to do with beginnings, you assume much, life must have started from non-life with every experience we have had ...[text shortened]... re facts, you got nothing.
I dare say you cannot even calculate the math on life showing up here.
Im pretty sure there is other life in this Milky Way galaxy. There are trillions of other galaxies bigger than ours and there must be life in each one. Why? I believe God made all these galaxies to create lifeforms.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidI have come across several Christian sects that discourage their members from exploring the possibility of alien life, with the claim that that is contrary to the bible. One of the reasons they use is that God made the stars for light by night. The fact is we cannot see anything beyond this Milky Way, with a couple minor exceptions. The vast expanse of the universe is therefore useless to man, and God did not need to create that if man was the only life form in the universe.
There are at least 2 trillion galaxies in the universe, each containing a probable 800 billion to 3.2 trillion planets. Think about that for a moment, let it sink in.
The idea that Earth is the only one that contains life is laughable. (Not only scientifically, but also religiously, with a creator God creating such an immense universe and only putting life on one planet).
Edit: The above is a checkmate answer. Collect your pieces and leave the room.
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@Rajk999 saidAdvancing knowledge has always been a perceived threat to religious introverts.
I have come across several Christian sects that discourage their members from exploring the possibility of alien life, with the claim that that is contrary to the bible. One of the reasons they use is that God made the stars for light by night. The fact is we cannot see anything beyond this Milky Way, with a couple minor exceptions. The vast expanse of the universe is th ...[text shortened]... e useless to man, and God did not need to create that if man was the only life form in the universe.