Love and unity....

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
There are at least 2 trillion galaxies in the universe, each containing a probable 800 billion to 3.2 trillion planets. Think about that for a moment, let it sink in.

The idea that Earth is the only one that contains life is laughable. (Not only scientifically, but also religiously, with a creator God creating such an immense universe and only putting life on one planet).

Edit: The above is a checkmate answer. Collect your pieces and leave the room.

I wouldn’t put your pieces back in the box yet!

@KellyJay said
I wouldn’t put your pieces back in the box yet!

Your set is ancient and dusty. (And pretty sure some of your pieces are missing).

Upgrade!

@KellyJay said
I wouldn’t put your pieces back in the box yet!

I think your position does not make sense. First the Christian would say, God was always there, and then say the creation took place 6,000 or so years ago. What was God doing for the millions of years before that. Was Earth the first creation? God rested on the 7th day. What about the 8th?

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Your set is ancient and dusty. (And pretty sure some of your pieces are missing).

Upgrade!

None are missing as a matter of fact I am still looking for some evidence that you can point to besides inhospitable environments out there that similar conditions here are even remotely possible elsewhere.

@Rajk999 said
I think your position does not make sense. First the Christian would say, God was always there, and then say the creation took place 6,000 or so years ago. What was God doing for the millions of years before that. Was Earth the first creation? God rested on the 7th day. What about the 8th?

I try avoiding putting statements in scripture that don’t belong, adding to or taking away from the text is something we are to avoid. I can’t use what is written to defend a young earth or dismiss an old one either, by looking text as written.

@KellyJay said
I try avoiding putting statements in scripture that don’t belong, adding to or taking away from the text is something we are to avoid. I can’t use what is written to defend a young earth or dismiss an old one either, by looking text as written.

Nobody is adding or taking away anything. Nothing in the bible can ever stop a curious person from wondering what it is out there, and if there are other creations. The bible is silent on that topic, but that does not mean that God wants people to play dumb. There are some very obvious clues which I pointed out and which you are ignoring.

God and angels and all the heavenly host, have been there for a very long time, so the question is what have they been up to. If you think someone speculating is adding then you are wrong.

@Rajk999 said
Nobody is adding or taking away anything. Nothing in the bible can ever stop a curious person from wondering what it is out there, and if there are other creations. The bible is silent on that topic, but that does not mean that God wants people to play dumb. There are some very obvious clues which I pointed out and which you are ignoring.

God and angels and all the hea ...[text shortened]... estion is what have they been up to. If you think someone speculating is adding then you are wrong.

When the Bible is silent on a topic, writing something into or claiming it could be this way or that, as if it wasn't silent isn't wise. If you are going to speculate, there is no reason to include scripture for something obviously coming from you, not it.

@KellyJay said
When the Bible is silent on a topic, writing something into or claiming it could be this way or that, as if it wasn't silent isn't wise. If you are going to speculate, there is no reason to include scripture for something obviously coming from you, not it.

Utter nonsense. When the Bible is silent on a topic all that means is that it is not important for eternal life. It does not mean we cannot speculate and use the bible to deduce what actually happened.

A good example is that the bible says nothing about what Jesus did from age 12 to 30. That 18-year period is missing. It is not important to know what happened, but someone is free to speculate and use the bible to deduce what Jesus reasonably could have done with those 18 years.

There are churches that preach Jesus stayed in his fathers house for 18 years. I think that is a nonsense conclusion. It is the same kind of church that preach that the earth is 6,000 yrs old.

@KellyJay said
None are missing as a matter of fact I am still looking for some evidence that you can point to besides inhospitable environments out there that similar conditions here are even remotely possible elsewhere.

How about addressing the points in this post?


'There are at least 2 trillion galaxies in the universe, each containing a probable 800 billion to 3.2 trillion planets. Think about that for a moment, let it sink in.

The idea that Earth is the only one that contains life is laughable. (Not only scientifically, but also religiously, with a creator God creating such an immense universe and only putting life on one planet). '

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
How about addressing the points in this post?


'There are at least 2 trillion galaxies in the universe, each containing a probable 800 billion to 3.2 trillion planets. Think about that for a moment, let it sink in.

The idea that Earth is the only one that contains life is laughable. (Not only scientifically, but also religiously, with a creator God creating such an immense universe and only putting life on one planet). '

The God who spoke reality into existence, who holds it all together by the power of His word isn't concerned about how many galaxies there are, nor the number of planets in them, any more than how many cells are in your body. Let that sink in!

If you are going to look at that and say again, "Why earth?" and start looking at all of the things that must be true for life to be here, you can see that it isn't a common but a unique thing that life exists here. Probability comes into play, but it isn't in your favor. It is the same issue I have with people who suggest enough time makes life on this planet possible; it does not. People say life is no big deal we have it here which is like saying we can shuffle a deck of cards and they fall into "A" order out of all of the possibilities, but that is not the same thing as saying the order that must be exactly this one with exacting minuscule variations for life. Life's necessities are far greater than a particular order of cards shuffled and a single order must be met out of 52 cards. So gravity, the expansion, the material properties, the charge on electrons, and a host of other things all come into play from the galactic to sub-atomic variables all matter for just this planet to host life.

@Rajk999 said
Utter nonsense. When the Bible is silent on a topic all that means is that it is not important for eternal life. It does not mean we cannot speculate and use the bible to deduce what actually happened.

A good example is that the bible says nothing about what Jesus did from age 12 to 30. That 18-year period is missing. It is not important to know what happened, but someo ...[text shortened]... s a nonsense conclusion. It is the same kind of church that preach that the earth is 6,000 yrs old.

If it doesn't speak to it, you shouldn't assume it doesn't matter, but that what is said does.

@Rajk999 said
Utter nonsense. When the Bible is silent on a topic all that means is that it is not important for eternal life. It does not mean we cannot speculate and use the bible to deduce what actually happened.

A good example is that the bible says nothing about what Jesus did from age 12 to 30. That 18-year period is missing. It is not important to know what happened, but someo ...[text shortened]... s a nonsense conclusion. It is the same kind of church that preach that the earth is 6,000 yrs old.

You can speculate, but all of your deductions are just your opinions. To build any doctrine on things not revealed in scripture is what the traditions of the religious leaders of the day in Jesus' time on the planet did, and they held those on par with scripture, it is dangerous. I don't preach a young earth because the sculptures are silent on the topic, it is enough to know God created it and is going to end it.

@KellyJay said
If it doesn't speak to it, you shouldn't assume it doesn't matter, but that what is said does.

Sounds like gibberish. Can you write clearer?

@KellyJay said
You can speculate, but all of your deductions are just your opinions. To build any doctrine on things not revealed in scripture is what the traditions of the religious leaders of the day in Jesus' time on the planet did, and they held those on par with scripture, it is dangerous. I don't preach a young earth because the sculptures are silent on the topic, it is enough to know God created it and is going to end it.

That goes without saying. If I speculate then it is obviously my opinion. Nobody is establishing doctrine... get a grip. Stop going overboard and there is nothing dangerous about speculating whether or not there are other creations, neither is it dangerous to wonder what Jesus did, and discuss it, during his years 12 to 30. Any Christian who does not want to do that is living in a cult and restricted by stupid cult rules.

@Rajk999 said
That goes without saying. If I speculate then it is obviously my opinion. Nobody is establishing doctrine... get a grip. Stop going overboard and there is nothing dangerous about speculating whether or not there are other creations, neither is it dangerous to wonder what Jesus did, and discuss it, during his years 12 to 30. Any Christian who does not want to do that is living in a cult and restricted by stupid cult rules.

If you tell me why something is not specified in scripture that is reading something into it that is not there. Just stick to what is said you are better off.