23 Jun 15
Originally posted by vivifyI have successfully demonstrated what Gods original standard was. Whether you accept it or not is not my affair. I have no issues and there are no fences facing me.
So when you can't argue against the fact that your god turned David into Hugh Hefner, it's "propaganda"?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI'm not disputing what God's "original standard" was. The point is that God clearly didn't care much about this standard since he gave David multiple wives, despite there being no record of David asking for this.
I have successfully demonstrated what Gods original standard was. Whether you accept it or not is not my affair. I have no issues and there are no fences facing me.
Originally posted by vivifyAgain i have successfully proven that the Kings of Israel were warned not to procure many wives for themselves, your opinions to the contrary are meaningless. There was a valid reason why Sauls concubines were handed on to David, a reason you seem oblivious to. Ironic considering your pretensions of Biblical knowledge, don't you think?
I'm not disputing what God's "original standard" was. The point is that God clearly didn't care much about this standard since he gave David multiple wives, despite there being no record of David asking for this.
Originally posted by vivifySo when you can't argue against the fact that your god turned David into Hugh Hefner, it's "propaganda"?
So when you can't argue against the fact that your god turned David into Hugh Hefner, it's "propaganda"?
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You blame God for David's failure ?
Don't you think that if the Bible writers were boasting of their national king hero David they would have concealed embarrassing information instead of record it in all candor ?
David's failure was not the fault of God as if God "turned him into Hugh Hefner".
David failure is followed by a wonderful story of forgiveness .. YET a forgiveness with a certain amount of discipline. And the fact that his failure is recorded in the Word of God suggests not false propaganda but candid and frank truth.
Only Moslems argue that a prophet of a godly person in the Bible could not have any faults.
23 Jun 15
Originally posted by sonshipWhat are you talking about? I'm not talking about "David's failure". I'm talking about the fact that God gave David a harem, contrary to the popular Christian belief that marriage should be between one man and one woman.
[b] So when you can't argue against the fact that your god turned David into Hugh Hefner, it's "propaganda"?
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You blame God for David's failure ?
Don't you think that if the Bible writers were boasting of their national king hero David they would have conce ...[text shortened]...
Only Moslems argue that a prophet of a godly person in the Bible could not have any faults.[/b]
Originally posted by vivifyOh well, after chiding us about not knowing our Bibles you now want a free Bible study? that's rich. . . .well well, who knows their Bibles now, us christians or you rascally materialists? Say 'You Christians are awesome', and I'll tell you.
So then YOU tell me. If monogamy is important to God, why then would he give David multiple wives?
23 Jun 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThat's my point in asking. You don't have an answer. You're left with either putting up a childish front that pretends biblical marriage was some special, romantic thing, or deal with the reality, that yes, your god gave people he liked multiple wives as gifts.
Oh well, after chiding us about not knowing our Bibles you now want a free Bible study? that's rich. . . .well well, who knows their Bibles now, us christians or you rascally materialists? Say 'You Christians are awesome', and I'll tell you.
23 Jun 15
Originally posted by vivifyOh dear you calling and im sitting with a royal flush. Ill tell you in the morning as its late here in the UK and Im texting on my phone.
That's my point in asking. You don't have an answer. You're left with either putting up a childish front that pretends biblical marriage was some special, romantic thing, or deal with the reality, that yes, your god gave people he liked multiple wives as gifts.
Originally posted by sonship"You blame God for David's failure ? "
[b] So when you can't argue against the fact that your god turned David into Hugh Hefner, it's "propaganda"?
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You blame God for David's failure ?
Don't you think that if the Bible writers were boasting of their national king hero David they would have conce ...[text shortened]...
Only Moslems argue that a prophet of a godly person in the Bible could not have any faults.[/b]
no, but i blame that "god" for murdering david's son.
" David failure is followed by a wonderful story of forgiveness "
but before that, a little wonderful story of murdering an innocent.