Michael the archangel revisited

Originally posted by Rajk999
You are too smart to realise that your statement was never ever said or implied by Jesus Christ himself. : [b] faith in the shed blood of Christ can save. .

I wonder what did Christ preach about eternal life? Maybe you should have a read for yourself.

By the way anger is a sign that you cannot properly support your doctrine from the teachings of Christ.[/b]

Matthew26:28
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Can you put two and two together Rajk?

By the way, I was not, and am not angry. And even if I was or am it's none of your concern.

You're beyond stupid if you think you can be saved by your good works since it has been proven to you scripturally that salvation is a gift, and that belief in what Jesus did on the cross by shedding His blood and dying for our sins is what saves, by faith in a His blood alone, without works.

Originally posted by josephw
Matthew26:28
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Can you put two and two together Rajk?

By the way, I was not, and am not angry. And even if I was or am it's none of your concern.

You're beyond stupid if you think you can be saved by your good works since it has been proven to you scriptur ...[text shortened]... ng His blood and dying for our sins is what saves, by faith in a His blood alone, without works.

at least he does not make truth claims that he cannot substantiate unlike you.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
at least he does not make truth claims that he cannot substantiate unlike you.

Can you substantiate all your truth claims Robbie?

Please do so in 300 words. (Diagrams optional).

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I can jaywill, suzzianne, R J Hinds and various others have belittled the house to house work of teaching and preaching the Goodnews of Gods Kingdom.

This is a mistake or a lie.

I never belittled house to house preaching or teaching.
I told you that I myself have had the experience of going door to door with the Gospel of Christ.

I may have spoken against going house to house preaching "another Jesus" as Watchtower students do.

(No I don't read your posts any more. I noticed this one at a glance.)

Originally posted by sonship
This is a mistake or a lie.

[b] I never belittled house to house preaching or teaching.
I told you that I myself have had the experience of going door to door with the Gospel of Christ.

I may have spoken against going house to house preaching "another Jesus" as Watchtower students do.

(No I don't read your posts any more. I noticed this one at a glance.)[/b]

you stated i preached 'another Jesus', from the Biblical Christ, that is nothing more than a disparaging remark. We are probably the most successful evangelising organisation in the history of humanity, that does not come about by preaching a so called 'other Jesus', as you have slanderously asserted. It may be another Jesus as far as your idolatry and paganism are concerned, but its not another Jesus from what is depicted in the Bible. Further more we have helped people overcome, all manner of problems, from drug abuse, to prostitution to abject poverty and illiteracy by preaching what you term, 'another Jesus', and as the preaching and teaching work is being directed by means of Gods Holy spirit under the direction of Christ (he stated to those who would be evangelising - look I am with you until the conclusion of the system of things) you have blasphemed against the Holy spirit, a sin for which there is no redemption.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Can you substantiate all your truth claims Robbie?

Please do so in 300 words. (Diagrams optional).

Yes I try to be able to substantiate them all if its possible and to avoid making grandiose assertions.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Yes I try to be able to substantiate them all if its possible and to avoid making grandiose assertions.

Was going to cut and paste one of your grandiose assertions here, but there are just too many to choose from dude.

Originally posted by josephw
Matthew26:28
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Can you put two and two together Rajk?

By the way, I was not, and am not angry. And even if I was or am it's none of your concern.

You're beyond stupid if you think you can be saved by your good works since it has been proven to you scriptur ...[text shortened]... ng His blood and dying for our sins is what saves, by faith in a His blood alone, without works.

You are a lost soul pal and I truly wish you the best in you search for truth.

What you have quoted is a private statement between Christ and his disciples.

In any case, Christ blood is shed for the remission of sins ... Yes

That does not answer the question which I ask neither does it support the statement you made.

Your doctrine is that you continue on sinning and Christ blood will save you. The Bible is clear that that is not the case.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
We are probably the most successful evangelising organisation in the history of humanity, that does not come about by preaching a so called 'other Jesus' .

Leaving aside all the Christian denominations with more members than your lot for a moment; are you now, after previously pouring scorn on it, happy to claim argumentum ad populum?

Originally posted by Rajk999
When it happens again I will pm you. Im actually surprised that so many Christians make derogatory statements about good works [apparently unknowingly] while Christ spent his entire ministry extolling good works. Shows you how powerful and dangerous church indoctrination can be.... so much so that people who are supposed to be following the teachings of Chri ...[text shortened]... reached. Many do that here openly and without concern for the consequences. I wish then luck. 😀

I shall watch out for your PM, but please excuse me if I don't hold my breath. Btw your not being able to come up with one example of anyone here condemning good works is noted.

Originally posted by divegeester
I shall watch out for your PM, but please excuse me if I don't hold my breath. Btw your not being able to come up with one example of anyone here condemning good works is noted.

Saying that 'good works is filthy rags' is like saying in modern parlance is that 'good works is $hitt'. If in your opinion that is not an insult to Christ and his doctrine then I wash my hands of you people.

Originally posted by Rajk999
You are too smart to realise that your statement was never ever said or implied by Jesus Christ himself. : [b] faith in the shed blood of Christ can save. .

I wonder what did Christ preach about eternal life? Maybe you should have a read for yourself.

By the way anger is a sign that you cannot properly support your doctrine from the teachings of Christ.[/b]

Matthew26:28
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Can you put two and two together Rajk?

By the way, I was not, and am not angry. And even if I was or am it's none of your concern.

You're beyond stupid if you think you can be saved by your good works since it has been proven to you scripturally that salvation is a gift, and that belief in what Jesus did on the cross by shedding His blood and dying for our sins is what saves, by faith in a His blood alone, without works.

Originally posted by josephw
Matthew26:28
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Can you put two and two together Rajk?

By the way, I was not, and am not angry. And even if I was or am it's none of your concern.

You're beyond stupid if you think you can be saved by your good works since it has been proven to you scriptur ...[text shortened]... ng His blood and dying for our sins is what saves, by faith in a His blood alone, without works.

You are a lost soul pal and I truly wish you the best in you search for truth.

What you have quoted is a private statement between Christ and his disciples.

In any case, Christ blood is shed for the remission of sins ... Yes

That does not answer the question which I ask neither does it support the statement you made.

Your doctrine is that you continue on sinning and Christ blood will save you. The Bible is clear that that is not the case.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Was going to cut and paste one of your grandiose assertions here, but there are just too many to choose from dude.

spoiled for choice eh 😀

Originally posted by Rajk999
Saying that 'good works is filthy rags' is like saying in modern parlance is that 'good works is $hitt'. If in your opinion that is not an insult to Christ and his doctrine then I wash my hands of you people.

You must be referring to the following scripture:

But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

(Isaiah 64:6 KJV)

One needs to read this in context with at least verse 5 and 7. Isaish does not say anything about good works here, but is actually referring to all the people of Israel at that time who have sinned against God, but believed themselves to be righteous. Isaiah believes none of them had been seeking after God by calling on His name.

The way I see it is that Isaiah realizes that God was not protecting them and had turned away and therefore this prayer is to request forgiveness from God on behalf of the people of Israel, whose so-called righteousness was as filty rags to God.

But none of this seems to apply to the orginal post about Jesus being Michael the archangel. Why don't you address that issue?