25 Mar 18
Originally posted by @sonshipI consider my moral compass to be different to whoever wrote the OT. I find slavery to be immoral, I find executing homosexuals to be a immoral.
That was you ARE more righteous then Jesus ?
Or that was you ARE NOT more righteous then Jesus?
Deal with the slavery issue.
You - "God condones the indefensible".
Me Jesus condones God His Righteous Father.
I know I am not over Jesus in righteousness.
Apparently you are then?
How about you sonship.
Is the executing of homosexuals moral or amoral?
25 Mar 18
Originally posted by @romans1009Therefore he changed the Law of Moses, which showed no mercy. These perps were stoned without mercy
He didn’t change a law made by God because He didn’t tell them not to stone her. He introduced mercy into the equation (not to mention an objection to hypocrisy.)
He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
(Hebrews 10:28 KJV)
Originally posted by @sonshipAny Christian who is truly IN CHRIST, will neither follow, nor defend the Law of Moses. I have said it many times. You are not a man with the Spirit of Christ in you. You are mouth worshiper, who does not know Christ.
I will not chase after that dubious rabbit trail now.
I am interested in those who are so confident that God condoned something evil and Jesus called this God - [b]"Righteous", if their goodness exceeds that of Christ's.
It seems that they should be able to plainly affirm it does.
God condones evil slavery.
Jesus condones God.
Are they then more righteous than BOTH the Father and the Son?[/b]
Originally posted by @sonshipYou read the words but fail at understanding.
It wasn't that good.
Excellent?
Read again [b]John 8:1-9
Could you point out the words to the effect of "DO NOT stone the adulterous woman" ? I didn't see them.
I did see this -"And Jesus stood up and said to her, Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you? ...
Neither do I condemn you, ..."
That I read.[/b]
The letter killeth the Spirit giveth life.
The Spirit of what Jesus did that day went over your head
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Originally posted by @sonshipYes sonship. I am more righteous than the tribalistic and petty God who sends bears to rip children apart and will watch as people are tormented for eternity in the fires of hell, simply for not believing in him.
Whether [b]Jesus Christ is fictional or historical, merely human or human and divine, you can tell us if you think you are more right as to morality than this One.
You advertize that you can condemn the God you don't believe in as inferior to your morality. So then why can't you compare yourself to a questioned Jesus of Nazareth in the same way?
...[text shortened]... , more ethical to the man you know (fictionally or historically) as Jesus Christ?
Yes or No?[/b]
Am I more righteous than a genuine deity who is perfectly loving and good? No.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeErr.... not sure if I’ve mentioned this before, but there will be no burning in hell. Hells off.
Yes sonship. I am more righteous than the tribalistic and petty God who sends bears to rip children apart and will watch as people are tormented for eternity in the fires of hell, simply for not believing in him.
Am I more righteous than a genuine deity who is perfectly loving and good? No.
Originally posted by @sonshipThe OP's question was rendered moot by the following:
Yes, I know, "calm down and follow off after this red herring.... calmly please."
Calmly reply to the OP's question directly.
In Leviticus 25:44-46 God is depicted as clearly and unambiguously condoning chattel slavery.
This flies in the face of what Jesus taught is the foundation of the will of God:
Matthew 7
12“In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the law and the prophets.
Matthew 22
37And He said to him, “ ‘YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.’ 38“This is the great and foremost commandment. 39“The second is like it, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ 40“On these two commandments depend the whole law and the prophets.”
Chattel slavery flies in the face of "treat people the same way you want them to treat you".
Chattel slavery flies in the face of "‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF".
Chattel slavery flies in the face of the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry.
As I posted in the OP of the "God Condoned Chattel Slavery" thread:
"Why not simply assert that the depiction of God condoning chattel slavery by the Jews was wrong since it is antithetical to the teachings of Jesus?".
Your defense of God being depicted as clearly and unambiguously condoning chattel slavery IS indefensible.
So if anyone has shown themselves to "believe their righteousness, their morality, and their ethics are greater then that of Jesus Christ" it is YOU.
25 Mar 18
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Originally posted by @sonshipYou didn't answer. I can look at dictionaries but that doesn't help me know what you meant.
Those who participated in saying the laws about servants / masters in the OT were immoral know enough to know what is meant by "righteous".
No one asked for definitions of "righteous" when they launched their diatribes against the slave laws in the law of God.
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Originally posted by @divegeesterWe could even say he was, "strangely quiet."
Where has sonship gone, surely not still in bed?!!
25 Mar 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeHe said “goodnight” at what would have been around 6am and hasn’t been heard of since. Yes “strangely quiet” indeed.
We could even say he was, "strangely quiet."
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeThis is an interesting way to respond to sonship's gimmick.
Yes sonship. I am more righteous than the tribalistic and petty God who sends bears to rip children apart and will watch as people are tormented for eternity in the fires of hell, simply for not believing in him. Am I more righteous than a genuine deity who is perfectly loving and good? No.