27 Apr 05
Originally posted by RingtailhunterMy claim was: The Israelites acted no better than other ancient conquerors; in fact, they were among the most savage.
The germans killed every Jew they could fit in the shower or go under a needle.
[edit] Man, Woman and child.
I will concede that the Nazis (who were not ancient conquerors) acted somewhat worse toward the Jews than the ancient Israelites acted towards their enemies.
27 Apr 05
Originally posted by no1marauderWhat, you now believe what is in the Bible?!
I have their own Bible which admits to putting whole cities to the sword; I have their own Bible which brags about conquering other nations and slaughtering all the civilians but the virgin girls and I have their own Bible which says they were conquered by powerful neighbors several times - by the Babylonians, the Assyrians, the Persians and the ...[text shortened]... one to show me another "civilization" which conducted their campaigns in a more brutal manner.
Good for you!
RTh
27 Apr 05
Originally posted by no1marauder
Numbers 31: 1-19 - How the Israelites acted in war; they exterminated the entire population of their enemies except the virgin girls.
The Israelites weren't exterminated by the Babylonians, the Assyrians, the Persians or the Romans.
Claim proven.
Claim not proven !
27 Apr 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeI think declaring someone ant-semite simply because they believe the ancient isrealites were a cold blooded warring race is rather juvenile.
Yea, suddenly No1 believes what is in the Bible. If it suits his anti-jewish agenda.
Can you produce evidence that the anicient isrealites were not a warring race who showed no compassion to thier vanquished?
27 Apr 05
Originally posted by Nyxie
I think declaring someone ant-semite simply because they believe the ancient isrealites were a cold blooded warring race is rather juvenile.
Can you produce evidence that the anicient isrealites were not a warring race who showed no compassion to thier vanquished?
No1 made a claim. He should prove it.
Please don't turn things upside down by asking me to prove the opposite.
27 Apr 05
Originally posted by NyxieNyxie: "I think declaring someone ant-semite ......"
I think declaring someone ant-semite simply because they believe the ancient isrealites were a cold blooded warring race is rather juvenile.
Can you produce evidence that the anicient isrealites were not a warring race who showed no compassion to thier vanquished?
I didn't say that.
27 Apr 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeIn response to both, he has proved the claim, using the bible, an accepted history of the ancient Isrealites. Do you wish to excluse the Bible from all further arguments in this regard, or do you also accept it as a historical reference?
Nyxie: "I think declaring someone ant-semite ......"
I didn't say that.
And what exactly did you mean by "anti-jewish agenda" then? Do you differentiate this insult as being different from anti-semite, and in which way?
Nyxie
27 Apr 05
Originally posted by no1marauder
Well us Roman Catholics have to stick together against the Christ killers don't we, Ivanhoe?
The Roman-Catholic Church advocates reconciliation between the two communities. You as an ex-Catholic apparently disagree with these efforts, reading your ridiculous and insulting attacks on the Old Testament and your fanatical attacks on the God of Abraham. Not to mention your unconditional political support for people who want to drive the Jewish people into the sea and threaten to destroy their State, Israel.
Next thing you are going to claim is that I misunderstood all your attacks both religious and political, your insults and namecalling towards the God of Abraham, your degrading stance concerning orthodox Jews and proclaim you have a pro-Jewish agenda.
27 Apr 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeCould you please start talking backwards in Dutch again? That's funnier gibberish than the post you just made, Ivanhoe.
The Roman-Catholic Church advocates reconciliation between the two communities. You as an ex-Catholic apparently disagree with these efforts, reading your ridiculous and insulting attacks on the Old Testament and your fanatical attacks on the God of Abraham. Not to mention your unconditional political support for people who want to drive the Jewish people ...[text shortened]... ur degrading stance concerning orthodox Jews and proclaim you have a pro-Jewish agenda.
27 Apr 05
Originally posted by NyxieThe burden of proof rest's with the accuser.
I think declaring someone ant-semite simply because they believe the ancient isrealites were a cold blooded warring race is rather juvenile.
Can you produce evidence that the anicient isrealites were not a warring race who showed no compassion to thier vanquished?