20 Aug 11
Originally posted by RJHindsme thinks someone needs to teach you the significance of those parables. suffice it to say, they are not about capitalism. you should instead look to the concrete things jesus said about how you should behave. those are the epitome of communism as it should have been.
The parable of the Talents immediately follows the parable of the ten virgins.
Matthew 25:14-30 again referring to the kingdom:
“For it is just like a man about to go on a journey, who called his own slaves
and entrusted his possessions to them. To one he gave five talents, to
another, two, and to another, one, each according to his own ability; and
h ...[text shortened]... place
there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Again this sounds like capitalism to me.
once you learn that, read the history of the early christians. before the empire of rome "mandated" christianity and brought it into its pagan roots by introducing pagan ideas like the trinity, many christians lived in agricultural communes.
20 Aug 11
Originally posted by VoidSpiritYest another example of where modern christianity has diverted away from its original path.
me thinks someone needs to teach you the significance of those parables. suffice it to say, they are not about capitalism. you should instead look to the concrete things jesus said about how you should behave. those are the epitome of communism as it should have been.
once you learn that, read the history of the early christians. before the empire ...[text shortened]... s by introducing pagan ideas like the trinity, many christians lived in agricultural communes.
Look at the Funadmentalist Protestant groups in the US, they are about a polar opposite to christs words of inclusion and support and community.
20 Aug 11
Originally posted by nook7i would say complete polar opposites, to the point of being anti-christ.
Yest another example of where modern christianity has diverted away from its original path.
Look at the Funadmentalist Protestant groups in the US, they are about a polar opposite to christs words of inclusion and support and community.
they are for war and even make up the bulk of soldiers
against public health care
for capitalism (but against darwin ?! -- mental fart on that one )
against tax raises
nationalists/patriots--heavily involved in national politics--want church nationalized
and then we have christ:
don't kill
keep church separate from the nation
on taxes, pay double the asking price
live in fellowship, for each other
don't lust after possessions
care for the poor
nice man. i hope he doesn't return, the christians would crucify him!
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Originally posted by VoidSpiritIndeed.
i would say complete polar opposites, to the point of being anti-christ.
they are for war and even make up the bulk of soldiers
against public health care
for capitalism (but against darwin ?! -- mental fart on that one )
against tax raises
nationalists/patriots--heavily involved in national politics--want church nationalized
and then w
care for the poor
nice man. i hope he doesn't return, the christians would crucify him!
Seems like a top bloke - the sort you would happily buy a beer for at your local.
l think when he next drops in for a visit (he is rather erratic - first he drops in 3 days after leaving and now it has been like 2000 years!) he would be rather shocked at how more people & things are excluded than included.
He would surely have some fundy pop him for spouting the very things they hold as sacred (insert maniacal laughter here at the absurdity of it all....)
20 Aug 11
Originally posted by RJHindsyou make Christians look like a bunch of ignorant boobs. You are not helping. Please stop, you are embarrasing yourself.
Another example of Christ's kingdom being more like capitalism than
communism.
Matthew 25:1-13
Parable of Ten Virgins
“Then the kingdom of heaven will be comparable to ten virgins, who took their
lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. Five of them were foolish, and
five were prudent. For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil
wi ...[text shortened]... at in a communist system there is no need to be prudent because
all will share what is needed.
20 Aug 11
Originally posted by VoidSpiritSure there is a deeper significance to these parables, but still it is
me thinks someone needs to teach you the significance of those parables. suffice it to say, they are not about capitalism. you should instead look to the concrete things jesus said about how you should behave. those are the epitome of communism as it should have been.
once you learn that, read the history of the early christians. before the empire ...[text shortened]... s by introducing pagan ideas like the trinity, many christians lived in agricultural communes.
capitalism at work. Yes, I know there have been various group,
many of them cults, that have experimented with communism;
none of them were able to make it work.
20 Aug 11
Originally posted by RJHindsit didn't work because the capitalists came in and killed them all.
Sure there is a deeper significance to these parables, but still it is
capitalism at work. Yes, I know there have been various group,
many of them cults, that have experimented with communism;
none of them were able to make it work.
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The early churches as communities also testified of a kind of "heavenly communism," if you will.
God definitely used the liberation from the covetousness of personal property as a strong evidence of His power in men's hearts.
"And the heart and soul of the multitude of those who had believed was one; and not even one said that any of his possessions was his own, but all things were common to them. " (Acts 4:32)
"For neither was anyone among them in need; for as many as were owners of lands or of houses sold them and brought the proceeds of the things which were sold and placed them at the feet of the apostles; and it was distributed to each, as anyone had need." (Acts 4:34,35)
In the first local church God demonstrated His power in men's hearts by moving them to share all things in common.
20 Aug 11
Originally posted by jaywillSharing is one thing and a good thing which can be done in capitalism
The early churches as communities also testified of a kind of "heavenly communism," if you will.
God definitely used the liberation from the covetousness of personal property as a strong evidence of His power in men's hearts.
[b]"And the heart and soul of the multitude of those who had believed was one; and not even one said that any of his possessi ...[text shortened]... God demonstrated His power in men's hearts by moving them to share all things in common.
as well; but communism is another thing and we have had many
governments demonstrate it is not good.
20 Aug 11
Originally posted by VoidSpiritIt sounds like you have been influenced by the Jehovah's Witnesses.
me thinks someone needs to teach you the significance of those parables. suffice it to say, they are not about capitalism. you should instead look to the concrete things jesus said about how you should behave. those are the epitome of communism as it should have been.
once you learn that, read the history of the early christians. before the empire ...[text shortened]... s by introducing pagan ideas like the trinity, many christians lived in agricultural communes.
20 Aug 11
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Originally posted by jaywillIf you are successful in keeping them very very short, then maybe we can call this the jaywill fortune cookie thread.
Since most of my posts are verbose and I think some people don't endure to read them all the way through, this thread I reserve for very very short things I want to say.
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20 Aug 11
Originally posted by RJHindsActually we have had situations where the people who take over the government and tell you they are going to install communism, never seem to think the time is right to install it.
Sharing is one thing and a good thing which can be done in capitalism
as well; but communism is another thing and we have had many
governments demonstrate it is not good.
20 Aug 11
Originally posted by DowardDon't you see any risk in the master trusting his slaves or servants
mmmm..no sorry. At the end of the day one assumes the risk upon oneself. In the parable the master assumes no risk, capitalism is predicated upon risk/reward
but the parable isn't about that. its spiritually and intellectualy dishonest to try and represent it that way
with his money? The one that hid the money was trying to play it
safe by not taking any risk with his masters money so that he might
not loose it. But this was not what the master wanted.