Spirituality
29 Jul 15
Originally posted by CalJustWhat is disputable is how much time it takes. The evidence is the same for the old agers as it is for us young agers. It is just you old agers only consider uniformitarian principles in calculating your old ages. We young agers use catastrophic principles to account for our young ages.
I started to have a reasonable discussion with Kelly Jay on this subject in the other thread (creation vs Evolution), where I pointed out the geological evidence that we have today on plate tectonics and continental drift. That also explains why the Himalayas are rising.
KJ opted out. Would you like to take a look at that, or do you just say: that is only ...[text shortened]... all this is undisputable, it is not conjecture.
Any comments on this, other than Hallelujah?
Geologic Column & Uniformitarianism
15 Aug 15
Originally posted by CalJustTo say nothing of the magnetic field recorded in the rocks in the upzones in the middle of the Atlantic ocean that has recorded the stately movement of the continents being forced apart at what, an inch a year or so? When the magma coming up from the deeps solidify, it takes with it the record of what the magnetic field of Earth was at the time. Something like 100,000 years apart, Earth's magnetic field flips north and south and that flipping is recorded quite faithfully in the rocks, almost like a tape recording of the Earth. That is indisputable. The only thing they (YEC's) can do is present bogus pseudoscience that poo poo's such data like stuff happened a thousand times faster 5 thousand years ago or some such rot, not even considering the incredible force it would take to even do that much work that fast, not to mention the fact there would be a continuous earthquake at level 9 or 10 every day of the year all over the planet and nothing would survive and the mountains would not even get a chance to grow but just melt back into the Earth.
I started to have a reasonable discussion with Kelly Jay on this subject in the other thread (creation vs Evolution), where I pointed out the geological evidence that we have today on plate tectonics and continental drift. That also explains why the Himalayas are rising.
KJ opted out. Would you like to take a look at that, or do you just say: that is only ...[text shortened]... all this is undisputable, it is not conjecture.
Any comments on this, other than Hallelujah?
They don't care about such details as thermodynamics in their vain quest to prove Earth 6000 years old.
15 Aug 15
Originally posted by sonhouseDinosaur Soft Tissue Found
To say nothing of the magnetic field recorded in the rocks in the upzones in the middle of the Atlantic ocean that has recorded the stately movement of the continents being forced apart at what, an inch a year or so? When the magma coming up from the deeps solidify, it takes with it the record of what the magnetic field of Earth was at the time. Something l ...[text shortened]... n't care about such details as thermodynamics in their vain quest to prove Earth 6000 years old.
16 Aug 15
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Originally posted by RJHindsyep, we EXPECT YEC's to jump on ANY development in science that even vaguely tends to prove the young Earth stance.
Dinosaur Soft Tissue Found
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It is just like you to change the subject, failing to prove your point on the way mountains rise, you just try a different tactic.
However, there is a lot more to reverse than just this finding. You have to reverse all of geology, radiometric rock dating, thermal dating, C14 dating, dendrochronology, and the math behind it.
YEC ers have been trying in vain for centuries to do just that but all their efforts have been in vain, NOTHING they have come up with has in any way been validated, instead, refuted time and time again but they are not after science of course.
They are after votes pure and simple, it is politics, religious politics in action which also is doomed to failure.
16 Aug 15
Originally posted by RJHindsFrom your link -
[quote]I can't tell you how high any mountain was when Noah's flood occurred. However, there is no doubt among geologists that mountains rise higher. The only doubt is the processes by which it happens and how rapid mountains rise. Common sense would tell us that Mt. Everest was not always as high as it is today. If one believes the record of the Holy Bi ...[text shortened]... le paleoelevation measurements.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080605150912.htm
'Andes Mountains rose slowly for tens of millions of years ........
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080605150912.htm
16 Aug 15
Originally posted by RJHindsMany, many other people have already told you that posting a YouTube link is not an argument.
What is disputable is how much time it takes. The evidence is the same for the old agers as it is for us young agers. It is just you old agers only consider uniformitarian principles in calculating your old ages. We young agers use catastrophic principles to account for our young ages.
[b]Geologic Column & Uniformitarianism
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However, I have in the past taken you seriously and looked at your YT links. When I have done so, I have invariably found gross errors, misrepresentation and outright lies. (Such as in our previous BEST video showing PROOF of a GLOBAL FLOOD) but when I point these out to you, you shrug it off as saying: THAT is YOUR belief!
So I have publicly called you a fraud and do so again. You cannot and will not answer very reasonable statements of documented fact, but STILL come back later and claim these are all lies by evilutionists trying to claim that there is no god! No scientist worth his or her salt tries to prove or disprove anything, but merely follows the trail of the evidence as they find it.
No, my friend, YOU are the one who is lying, when you post stuff that you are unwilling or unable to defend, and call it TRUTH.
17 Aug 15
Originally posted by sonhouseCarbon 14 Dating Dinosaur Bones
yep, we EXPECT YEC's to jump on ANY development in science that even vaguely tends to prove the young Earth stance.
It is just like you to change the subject, failing to prove your point on the way mountains rise, you just try a different tactic.
However, there is a lot more to reverse than just this finding. You have to reverse all of geology, radio ...[text shortened]... s pure and simple, it is politics, religious politics in action which also is doomed to failure.
17 Aug 15
Originally posted by biffo konkerHowever, they presented no evidence for the millions of years. They were simply parroting that from the evil indoctrination propaganda they had received from the evilution worldview. 😏
From your link -
'Andes Mountains rose slowly for tens of millions of years ........
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080605150912.htm
17 Aug 15
Originally posted by CalJustYou have presented no TRUTH, but simply parrot evilution lies as do the rest of your sort. 😏
Many, many other people have already told you that posting a YouTube link is not an argument.
However, I have in the past taken you seriously and looked at your YT links. When I have done so, I have invariably found gross errors, misrepresentation and outright lies. (Such as in our previous BEST video showing PROOF of a GLOBAL FLOOD) but when I point thes ...[text shortened]... who is lying, when you post stuff that you are unwilling or unable to defend, and call it TRUTH.
17 Aug 15
Originally posted by RJHindsAh, you must mean the sort who goes after truth without a built in agenda. Funny, that always finds the right answer. Your YEC buddies do no such thing. They want to actively destroy any science that refutes the date of Earth. That is not science and never will be, that is politics in action, religious politics seeking votes from the weak minded who will help them force the Iranization of the US, forcing creationism to be taught as if it were a science. Very repugnant and despicable with the real result that the US is becoming the laughing stock of the world in science.
You have presented no TRUTH, but simply parrot evilution lies as do the rest of your sort. 😏
17 Aug 15
Originally posted by sonhouseYour evolution science and your old earth science hasn't proven that it is real science. It appears to be only a belief, like you refer to all other religions.
Ah, you must mean the sort who goes after truth without a built in agenda. Funny, that always finds the right answer. Your YEC buddies do no such thing. They want to actively destroy any science that refutes the date of Earth. That is not science and never will be, that is politics in action, religious politics seeking votes from the weak minded who will he ...[text shortened]... picable with the real result that the US is becoming the laughing stock of the world in science.
Creation is a Scientific Fact
18 Aug 15
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Originally posted by RJHindsWow !! Maybe they were the same people who built the giant pyramid that was found near the Marianas Trench back in 1975.
Noah's Flood & What REALLY May Have Happened - Hydroplate Theory
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High tech civilization destroyed by Noah's flood; Proof in coal and Rocks
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Oh wait. Never mind.The pyramid is scientific fact, which is completely different from the fantastic lies you belch in the name of Christianity.
18 Aug 15
Originally posted by CalJustCalJust you left on a trip or something I don't recall which...I've been waiting for you.
Many, many other people have already told you that posting a YouTube link is not an argument.
However, I have in the past taken you seriously and looked at your YT links. When I have done so, I have invariably found gross errors, misrepresentation and outright lies. (Such as in our previous BEST video showing PROOF of a GLOBAL FLOOD) but when I point thes ...[text shortened]... who is lying, when you post stuff that you are unwilling or unable to defend, and call it TRUTH.
If you want start where we left off we can.
This crap of claiming I'm dodging you is a new low.
18 Aug 15
Originally posted by KellyJayNot true.
CalJust you left on a trip or something I don't recall which...I've been waiting for you.
If you want start where we left off we can.
This crap of claiming I'm dodging you is a new low.
I saw you posted in other threads, but never responded to my last post in the one where we had a sequence going. I can't even remember, I think it was the one called the one "evolution vs Creation debate".
If you want to pick it up again, you know where to find me. The last post was mine.