Originally posted by twhiteheadtwhitehead, all human beings are born spiritually dead, depraved and "the scum of the earth" in relationship to God's Righteous Standard. We have nothing of value to offer Him. He offers the grace gift of salvation and eternal life to us. Some accept it; others refuse it.
I believe Christians are the scum of the earth.
Just an idea that popped into my head.
I hope you don't feel insulted.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbySo I take it that instead of being insulted, you simply agree with me. But then you call me the 'scum of the earth too' and I find that insulting - I don't care whose standard you compared me with to come up with that conclusion.
twhitehead, all human beings are born spiritually dead, depraved and "the scum of the earth" in relationship to God's Righteous Standard. We have nothing of value to offer Him. He offers the grace gift of salvation and eternal life to us. Some accept it; others refuse it.
Also insulting is your persistence in insisting that I have refused an offer that I am not aware was ever made to me - despite this being explained to you many many times.
Originally posted by twhiteheadMy statement regarding your phrase "scum of the earth" was inclusive of every member of the human race past, present and future which includes you and me. If your usage applied to more than "Christians" as you stated then we agree. I'm not insulted in the least because I'm a realist about my own sin nature. Whether you've accepted or refused God's offer is known only to you and Him.
So I take it that instead of being insulted, you simply agree with me. But then you call me the 'scum of the earth too' and I find that insulting - I don't care whose standard you compared me with to come up with that conclusion.
Also insulting is your persistence in insisting that I have refused an offer that I am not aware was ever made to me - despite this being explained to you many many times.
Footnote: Originally posted by twhitehead
"I believe Christians are the scum of the earth.
Just an idea that popped into my head.
I hope you don't feel insulted." (Page 2)
Originally posted by Grampy BobbySo, clearly including me - therefore insulting. [1]
My statement regarding your phrase "scum of the earth" was inclusive of every member of the human race past, present and future which includes you and me.
Whether you've accepted or refused God's offer is known only to you and Him.
Ignoring what I said and trying to talk over it - very insulting. [10]
Originally posted by Rajk999You are a comedian. 😀
Since there are a couple threads out there which seem to be focusing on being nice and avoiding insulting language, it would be very informative if some examples could be given. Everybody's idea or definition of an insult will vary. Please identity what you consider insulting or derogatory giving it a rating so that people understand how important it is to y ...[text shortened]...
[2] You are a moron for making such a statement.
Just off the top of my head .. more later.
15 Jul 15
Originally posted by Rajk999For me, "insult" depends a lot on who says it. If it's say, RJHinds calling someone 'numbnuts', then that doesn't matter because he says it to anyone and everyone.
Since there are a couple threads out there which seem to be focusing on being nice and avoiding insulting language, it would be very informative if some examples could be given. Everybody's idea or definition of an insult will vary. Please identity what you consider insulting or derogatory giving it a rating so that people understand how important it is to y ...[text shortened]...
[2] You are a moron for making such a statement.
Just off the top of my head .. more later.
However, if it were a poster that I generally respect calling me a 'moron', that would sting a bit.
The stuff in your 10] - I have heard so many times that it hardly registers in my head. When I see that stuff, I usually look to the next post for something that might be interesting, instead. 🙂
15 Jul 15
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemA couple good points there. Everyone reacts differently. Here is an often ignored passage by Paul.
For me, "insult" depends a lot on who says it. If it's say, RJHinds calling someone 'numbnuts', then that doesn't matter because he says it to anyone and everyone.
However, if it were a poster that I generally respect calling me a 'moron', that would sting a bit.
The stuff in your 10] - I have heard so many times that it hardly registers in my h ...[text shortened]... that stuff, I usually look to the next post for something that might be interesting, instead. 🙂
For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more. And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law; To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law. To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you. (1 Corinthians 9:19-23 KJV)
What Paul says here is basically when in Rome do as the Romans. Likewise If you are among atheists what does it matter if you agree with some of what they believe in order to gain them or win them over on important issues. Arguing about creation v evolution is one of most useless topics that the Christian can argue about in my opinion.
Originally posted by twhiteheadSometimes facts hurt and truth stings; your reaction is quite common.
So, clearly including me - therefore insulting. [1]
[b]Whether you've accepted or refused God's offer is known only to you and Him.
Ignoring what I said and trying to talk over it - very insulting. [10][/b]
At least you had the honesty and candor to express it publically.