Spirituality
10 Feb 19
@kellyjay saidTo realize that you are dabbling in pseudoscience only in so far as it provides you with confirmation bias for your belief in supernatural causality is not something that takes 'mind reading'. Nor does it take 'mind reading' to understand why you don't want to discuss it on a forum dedicated to science but instead air it on a forum where you can witter on about any superstitious notion you may happen to have. There is no 'mind reading' involved.
Is that a yes, you will read my mind know what I want and why I'm doing it and post it for me?
10 Feb 19
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@fmf saidIf you want to post it and give me credit go for it. Otherwise you post what you want where and so will I.
To realize that you are dabbling in pseudoscience only in so far as it provides you with confirmation bias for your belief in supernatural causality is not something that takes 'mind reading'. Nor does it take 'mind reading' to understand why you don't want to discuss it on a forum dedicated to science but instead air it on a forum where you can witter on about any superstitious notion you may happen to have. There is no 'mind reading' involved.
Maybe someone there can talk for you, or maybe you should use your mind reading abilities and just know what they will say!
10 Feb 19
@kellyjay said"Mind reading" what? What are you on about?
If you want to post it and give me credit go for it. Otherwise you post what you want where and so will I.
Maybe someone there can talk for you, or maybe you should use your mind reading abilities and just know what they will say!
"Post it"? Post what?
10 Feb 19
@kellyjay saidI don’t think you really understand the implications of what you are saying here. For your worldview to be correct, nearly every scientific field is wrong. Not just wrong, spectacularly wrong. Physics, Chemistry and biology - all wrong. The entire foundations of mankind’s knowledge and understanding of the universe is wrong. Countless scientists from all nations and all faiths have been barking up the wrong tree for the last few thousand years. I don’t know about you, but to me that is a pretty wild, incredible, far fetched scenario. As I’ve said on this forum many times - ‘extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence’. You’re gonna have to come up with something better than ‘because they don't want it acknowledge the possibility’.
Short answer to your question, because they don't want it acknowledge the possibility. Even talking about this stuff gets some feathers ruffled and accusations start flying.
@proper-knob saidSeems likely that it's a side effect of adhering to "salvation by faith" theology:
I don’t think you really understand the implications of what you are saying here. For your worldview to be correct, nearly every scientific field is wrong. Not just wrong, spectacularly wrong. Physics, Chemistry and biology - all wrong. The entire foundations of mankind’s knowledge and understanding of the universe is wrong. Countless scientists from all nations and all f ...[text shortened]... have to come up with something better than ‘because they don't want it acknowledge the possibility’.
Thing are true simply because you believe that they are true. The more fervent the faith, the truer the belief. As such they are not open to reason.
10 Feb 19
@proper-knob saidYou think truth is about how many believe something for a long time? Frankly if that were the case the world would be flat in the eyes of many, due to your reasoning the modern consensus would carry the day not truth.
I don’t think you really understand the implications of what you are saying here. For your worldview to be correct, nearly every scientific field is wrong. Not just wrong, spectacularly wrong. Physics, Chemistry and biology - all wrong. The entire foundations of mankind’s knowledge and understanding of the universe is wrong. Countless scientists from all nations and all f ...[text shortened]... have to come up with something better than ‘because they don't want it acknowledge the possibility’.
10 Feb 19
@kellyjay saidHow did mankind come to realize that the Earth is not flat?
You think truth is about how many believe something for a long time? Frankly if that were the case the world would be flat in the eyes of many, due to your reasoning the modern consensus would carry the day not truth.
10 Feb 19
@fmf saidI think truth is the most important thing there is not feelings, not consensus, not human authority, or pet theories! If we discover something new that should be celebrated, if we discover something we thought was true isn’t, that too should be as vigorous celebrated because our knowledge has improved.
Do you consider gaining and spreading the knowledge that the Earth is not flat was progress for mankind?
Do you understand that thinking the Earth is only 6,000 or so years old sounds like thinking the Earth is flat?
Keeping the status quo isn’t the goal and through time it never has been when comes to real science.
11 Feb 19
@kellyjay said"If we discover something new that should be celebrated"? How does this square with believing the Earth is only 6,000 or so years old?
If we discover something new that should be celebrated, if we discover something we thought was true isn’t, that too should be as vigorous celebrated because our knowledge has improved.