01 Jul 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieChristians:
1. hardly
2. no its not true, i worship Jehovah, they worship Jesus
3. none of your concern
whatever rocks your socks.
Worship Jesus correct and they do worship the God of the old Testament because they are the same God
So we are arguing at least about those points. You say Jesus is NOT God that's the differences.
Manny
01 Jul 11
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieAugustines writtings were in the late 300's but I know for a fact and I will research that the idea concept whatever label we choose for the trinity was earlier than the 4th Century
what you think and what truth is are two distinct propositions, i resent your defamatory claims of dishonesty and i have provided ample evidence that my definition of the trinity is as set out by the Athanasian Creed, your vain and quite frankly scurrilous attempts to deny this, in the face of incontrovertible evidence are naught but a sham. But th ...[text shortened]... religions, expressed in Greek Philosophical terms not found in scripture and misapplied to God.
Manny
01 Jul 11
Originally posted by menace71Yes, that is right, it is a Jehovah's Witnesses lie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophilus_of_Antioch
The Concept of the trinity was earlier than the 4th century so that must be a JW lie or something
Manny
But robbie carrobie would rather believe the lie than accept
Jesus the Christ as God and Lord of all.
01 Jul 11
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Originally posted by RJHindsIs this the best you jokers can do, call everything a lie just because you dont agree with it, or have failed to understand it, your a real bad joke, here it is again, sigh, why i bother, i have no idea,
Yes, that is right, it is a Jehovah's Witnesses lie.
But robbie carrobie would rather believe the lie than accept
Jesus the Christ as God and Lord of all.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century
will i spell it out for you, did you notice the reference, was it a Jehovahs Witness that produced the work? No, well what are you talking about? You will also notice it does not say, first mentioned, no it states, 'not solidly established', 'not fully assimilated', do you people understand anything you read? I really doubt it.
01 Jul 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThat is much different than what the Jehovah's Witnesses are saying in
Is this the best you jokers can do, call everything a lie just because you dont agree with it, or have failed to understand it, your a real bad joke, here it is again, sigh, why i bother, i have no idea,
The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated i ...[text shortened]... d', 'not fully assimilated', do you people understand anything you read? I really doubt it.
claiming it originated from paganism, which we have proven to be a lie.
01 Jul 11
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Originally posted by RJHindsyou have proven nothing of the sort, your a fantasy merchant, you cannot even read a text and understand what its saying as this latest accusation of yours has proven, what chances do you have elsewhere?
That is much different than what the Jehovah's Witnesses are saying in
claiming it originated from paganism, which we have proven to be a lie.
01 Jul 11
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Originally posted by menace71Sure it goes way back to Babylon.... Not that you'll read this but oh well. Here it is again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophilus_of_Antioch
The Concept of the trinity was earlier than the 4th century so that must be a JW lie or something
Manny
http://reluctant-messenger.com/Lost-Doctrines-Christianity009.htm
http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/contents/doctrine/the%20origin%20of%20the%20trinity.htm
http://apostolics.net/trichrt1.html
http://www.onlinechurch.com.au/the-holy-trinity-from-babylon-to-rome
http://www.piney.com/His21.html
http://www.christadelphia.org/trinityhistory.htm
01 Jul 11
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Now from Egypt.........
http://mikeblume.com/pagantr.htm
http://www.usislam.org/revise/21Egypt.htm
http://www.heaven.net.nz/answers/answer08.htm
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/100871
http://www.sabbathcovenant.com/IHS.htm
There are pages after pages of this info. Do I need to paste more?
01 Jul 11
Originally posted by galveston75the christadelphian one is rather excellent, its peppered with quotations detailing the conclusions of others.
Sure it goes way back to Babylon.... Not that you'll read this but oh well. Here it is again.
http://reluctant-messenger.com/Lost-Doctrines-Christianity009.htm
http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/contents/doctrine/the%20origin%20of%20the%20trinity.htm
http://apostolics.net/trichrt1.html
http://www.onlinechurch.com.au/the-holy-trinity-from-babylon-to-rome
http://www.piney.com/His21.html
http://www.christadelphia.org/trinityhistory.htm
01 Jul 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI have already given references to the fact that Tertullian formulated the
you have proven nothing of the sort, your a fantasy merchant, you cannot even read a text and understand what its saying as this latest accusation of yours has proven, what chances do you have elsewhere?
Trinity toward the end of the second century and it first appeared in the
writings at that time. The fact that it was not officially adopted by the
Roman Catholic Church as a doctrine does not nulify when and who
originated the Term "Trinity". It was not used by any pagan religion
and those people that call the pagan triads a trinity are flat out wrong.
01 Jul 11
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Originally posted by RJHindsUnbelieveable..... and the sad thing is your probably a really smart guy too.
I have already given references to the fact that Tertullian formulated the
Trinity toward the end of the second century and it first appeared in the
writings at that time. The fact that it was not officially adopted by the
Roman Catholic Church as a doctrine does not nulify when and who
originated the Term "Trinity". It was not used by any pagan religion
and those people that call the pagan triads a trinity are flat out wrong.
And again who exactly who is this Tertullian dude that we all should follow what he thinks and formulates??
01 Jul 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobiewhy don't you address the points Manny made rather than spout more of your nonsense
Is this the best you jokers can do, call everything a lie just because you dont agree with it, or have failed to understand it, your a real bad joke, here it is again, sigh, why i bother, i have no idea,
The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated i ...[text shortened]... d', 'not fully assimilated', do you people understand anything you read? I really doubt it.