11 Mar 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieNo surprise at your lack of integrity on this thread. Wasn't that long ago that you were using all manner of deceit including outright lies in your attempts to disparage me. In the midst of that of course came false denials, more deceit, more false accusations, etc. Only after quite a number of posts were you able to show a modicum of decency and admit your guilt. Even at that it was the type of weak admission one might expect from a young teen and have been embarrased for anyone older than that: "yes yes, but as i stated we have already established that, have you never told a lie?" As I recall there never was a formal retraction or apology. So it comes as no surprise that you continue on the same path here.
If you believe that tripe, you'd also have [b]no trouble providing "reasons" for justifying your participation in rape, murder or anything else you might purport to be against the JW way.
These are your own words are they not? What do they purport to be but an insinuation that i could justify rape and murder.
No apology will be forthcoming nor a retraction made until you explain yourself, in clear and unambiguous terms.[/b]
11 Mar 11
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Originally posted by ThinkOfOneIs that an explanation of why you have publicly stated that i am capable of justifying rape and murder? Where is your explanation? They were your words were they not? You did form them in your mind did you not? Simply slithering around trying to discredit others through vain assertions of lack of integrity while remaining incapable of admitting your own mistakes is doing you great harm thinkofone. I have already outlined in a previous correspondence why this lacks honesty and humility. Until you utter an explanation of your words and the intent you have no recourse to the use of words like honesty and integrity, no, none whatsoever.
No surprise at your lack of integrity on this thread. Wasn't that long ago that you were using all manner of deceit including outright lies in your attempts to disparage me. In the midst of that of course came false denials, more deceit, more false accusations, etc. Only after quite a number of posts were you able to show a modicum of decency and admit yo al retraction or apology. So it comes as no surprise that you continue on the same path here.
Here they are again,
If you believe that tripe, you'd also have no trouble providing "reasons" for justifying your participation in rape, murder or anything else you might purport to be against the JW way. - thinkofone
11 Mar 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieFor the pete's sake, robbie, he used the subjunctive and it is a rhetorical device intended to draw your attention to your inconsistency. Now you come across like you are deliberately misunderstanding his point so that you don't have to answer it - something you seem to do on this forum an awful lot, and which is decidedly not part of the nice, friendly, funny face that you sometimes present and which many people like. Just address Think Of One's actual point head on and stop with this victimhood thing already. Stop pretending that you think he accused you of justifying rape. You know he didn't. He knows he didn't. Everybody knows he didn't. Just engage his point.
Is that an explanation of why you have publicly stated that i am capable of justifying rape and murder?
11 Mar 11
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Originally posted by FMFQuite frankly Mr Shankly i dont care whose sake you wish to invoke, nor any pretentious references to rhetorical devices, the fact of the matter remains, that he has stated that I am prepared to justify rape and murder because i am also willing to eat pancakes on pancake Tuesday, despite the fact that I am a non Catholic. If that is not ludicrous enough, he then has the audacity to ask for an apology on the basis of an assertion that he has made, despite the fact that it is self evident that he continues to slight my character with vain assertions of lack of integrity. All he needed to do was offer an explanation but could not even bring himself to do that. Why was that the case if it was simply a rhetorical device? All he had to do was state it?
For the pete's sake, robbie, he used the subjunctive and it is a rhetorical device intended to draw your attention to your inconsistency. Now you come across like you are deliberately misunderstanding his point so that you don't have to answer it - something you seem to do on this forum an awful lot, and which is decidedly not part of the nice, friendly, funny f You know he didn't. He knows he didn't. Everybody knows he didn't. Just engage his point.
I find your position so utterly deviod of reason that it begs belief, for if you think that for one moment i am going to try to attempt to justify rape and murder on the basis that i like pancakes or to suggest that the crime of eating pancakes is synonymous with rape and murder then you are more seriously deluded or cynical than I originally thought, so i suggest FMF that you just stop the pretence for everyone knows what kind of person he is, simply ask knightmeister, whodey, conrau or anyone else who has had the misfortune to correspond with him.
As for being accused of justifying rape and murder or what his real intent was, all he had to do was clarify his position, for which i asked no less than three times, with the words 'in clear and unambiguous language please'. You have no case FMF, nothing!
11 Mar 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI wasn't making a "case". I was just urging you to stop pretending to misunderstand his point (as you so often do - cringingly obviously sometimes - with people you debate with) and either address the point - or ignore him.
You have no case FMF, nothing!
11 Mar 11
Originally posted by FMFI asked him three times to clarify his intent, three times FMF, you cannot cry about it nor foment assertions of pretence, three times! either look at the evidence or stop inventing scenarios.
I wasn't making a "case". I was just urging you to stop pretending to misunderstand his point (as you so often do - cringingly obviously sometimes - with people you debate with) and either address the point - or ignore him.
12 Mar 11
To Proper Knob:
Where do you get the idea that God created gay people?
God only created Adam and Eve. Two humans, one male
and one female. They were not homosexual (gay).
God gave the ten commandments, which condemns all
humans because we do not obey them. We are flawed
due to the original sins of Adam and Eve. But God is a
loving God and provided a way to be pardoned by means
of his only begotten Son, the savior of the world.
With love,
RJHinds
12 Mar 11
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieSimply slithering around trying to discredit others through vain assertions of lack of integrity...
Is that an explanation of why you have publicly stated that i am capable of justifying rape and murder? Where is your explanation? They were your words were they not? You did form them in your mind did you not? Simply slithering around trying to discredit others through vain assertions of lack of integrity while remaining incapable of admitting yo in rape, murder or anything else you might purport to be against the JW way. - thinkofone[/b]
Yet another false accusation. Yet more deceit. Stop pretending that you don't know that it's true. You know you are a liar. You know you have admitted you are a liar. You know I know you're a liar. You know I know you have admitted you are a liar. So surely you know it's anything but "vain assertions". What's more, I just quoted one of your admissions of being a liar. What? Must I provide proof that you made the admission? Okay, here it is:
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=134595&page=&page=7
ToO: You are what you are Robbie and that's a liar.
RC:yes yes, but as i stated we have already established that, have you never told a lie?
Is deceit such an integral part of your character that you can't help but be deceitful?
Your ongoing mischaracterizations of what I wrote in a seeming attempt to disparage me and avoid my point involves even more deceit. I've already called you on it. FMF has repeatedly urged you to "stop pretending to misunderstand [my] point." What compels you to continually engage in deceit?
12 Mar 11
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Originally posted by ThinkOfOneI did not misunderstand your point, i only wanted you to clarify it, which you failed to do? despite being asked clearly, three times, why was that? All you had to honestly state was, it was a rhetorical device, but you could not do it? was it really the case that it was a rhetorical device or were you clearly insinuating that because i like to eat pancakes that i was also capable of justifying rape and murder (your words i believe), either way, your failure through a complete lack of honesty to state plainly although having been asked three times to do so has caught you out again and you have no recourse to cry, nor to use terms such as honesty or integrity for this little incident has truly exposed that you have neither.
[b]Simply slithering around trying to discredit others through vain assertions of lack of integrity...
Yet another false accusation. Yet more deceit. Stop pretending that you don't know that it's true. You know you are a liar. You know you have admitted you are a liar. You know I know you're a liar. You know I know you have admitted you are a liar. ding to misunderstand [my] point." What compels you to continually engage in deceit?[/b]
Indeed, lets test it out now shall we? has anyone asked you if you have ever sinned, please do tell, have you?
Has anyone ever asked you if you have told a lie, please do tell, have you?
Did i mention you were asked three times to clarify your position. . . . just saying.
You see honesty comes from admitting ones failings, strangely i cannot think of a single instance where you have done so, why is that? lack of humility, lack of honesty, lack of integrity? who can say? Perhaps you can explain why that is the case, or point to a reference where you have done so?
12 Mar 11
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieListen, why don't you just admit that you've been mischaracterizing what I wrote in an attempt to disparage me and avoid my point instead of continuing this charade?
I did not misunderstand your point, i only wanted you to clarify it, which you failed to do? despite being asked clearly, three times, why was that? All you had to honestly state was, it was a rhetorical device, but you could not do it? was it really the case that it was a rhetorical device or were you clearly insinuating that because i like to eat ...[text shortened]... ? Perhaps you can explain why that is the case, or point to a reference where you have done so?
As FMF said:
Now you come across like you are deliberately misunderstanding his point so that you don't have to answer it - something you seem to do on this forum an awful lot, and which is decidedly not part of the nice, friendly, funny face that you sometimes present and which many people like. Just address Think Of One's actual point head on and stop with this victimhood thing already.
What's more, given your long-time ongoing behavior on this forum, it's ludicrous for you to pretend that you know anything about honesty or where it comes from.
And before you once again let your pride get the better of you, keep in mind that the first bolded passage in the quote from FMF says "you are deliberately misunderstanding his point so that you don't have to answer it - something you seem to do on this forum an awful lot."
12 Mar 11
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Originally posted by ThinkOfOneAs i suspected, you FAILED AGAIN to answer any of the simple questions that were put to you, no surprise, no references and thus no recourse to any terms of honesty or integrity. I will not be held accountable for, nor attempt to justify remarks that you have made, you take responsibility for your own words, the sooner you learn that the better for all. Your repeated evasion, denial of and inability due to a lack of honesty and humility to admit your own mistakes is blinding you to the fact, that you above all else are truly held in derision by hordes of contributors to the forum, why dont we ask some of them, shall we? I really think that FMF is correct, it would be better simply to ignore you. Conrau came to the realisation, as has whodey, as did knightmeister, i really think that its time i did the same.
Listen, why don't you just admit that you've been mischaracterizing what I wrote in an attempt to disparage me and avoid my point instead of continuing this charade?
As FMF said:
[quote]Now you come across like you are deliberately misunderstanding his point so that you don't have to answer it - something you seem to do on this forum an awful lot don't have to answer it - [b]something you seem to do on this forum an awful lot."[/b]
(Psalm 26:4) . . .I have not sat with men of untruth; And with those who hide what they are I do not come in.
12 Mar 11
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieAnd the charade continues. You just pile deceit upon deceit. It's like trying to deal with a young teen who has yet to develop a sense of integrity.
As i suspected, you FAILED AGAIN to answer any of the simple questions that were put to you, no surprise, no references and thus no recourse to any terms of honesty or integrity. I will not be held accountable for, nor attempt to justify remarks that you have made, you take responsibility for your own words, the sooner you learn that the better for ...[text shortened]... . . .I have not sat with men of untruth; And with those who hide what they are I do not come in.
I really think that FMF is correct, it would be better simply to ignore you.
Let's put what FMF said in context:
I was just urging you to stop pretending to misunderstand his point (as you so often do - cringingly obviously sometimes - with people you debate with) and either address the point - or ignore him.
Seems reasonably clear that his point was that rather than pretending to misunderstand the points of others in order to avoid addressing their points, as you so often do, you should address them - failing that you should say nothing at all - however, pretending to misunderstand the points should not be an option.
I'm thinking that he'd also suggest that pretending to misunderstand points so that you can attempt to disparage others should not be an option either which is what you seem to have done here.
If you haven't wrapped your mind around it yet, the core problem is with PRETENDING to misunderstand the points of others.
15 Mar 11
Originally posted by RJHindsCorrect me where i go wrong -
To Proper Knob:
Where do you get the idea that God created gay people?
God only created Adam and Eve. Two humans, one male
and one female. They were not homosexual (gay).
God gave the ten commandments, which condemns all
humans because we do not obey them. We are flawed
due to the original sins of Adam and Eve. But God is a
loving God and provid ...[text shortened]... be pardoned by means
of his only begotten Son, the savior of the world.
With love,
RJHinds
God created everything in the universe, there are gay people in the universe, therefore God created gay people.