Predestination. True or false?

@sonship said
God not only responds to prayer. There things He will not do unless prayer from men on earth have sought them. He waits for man to agree with His desired will and ASK Him to fulfill it.

Sometimes He even exhorted His people to "command" Him concerning His will.

Isaiah 45:11 - " Thus says Jehovah, The Holy One of Israel and the One who formed him,

...[text shortened]... e about the things to come concerning My sons, And concerning the work of My hands, command Me "

@rajk999 said
God only responds to the prayers of the righteous. That little fact is stated several times in the bible. The wicked, or evil or people who do not please God, God will ignore their prayers.

@pb1022 said
And the righteous are those who have accepted Jesus Christ and who believe in Him and His Resurrection

So what made me post this predestination thread is because of my stepdaughter. Her husband is a preacher of his own little church, in their house. He says no one knows the bible like he does so he started his own. Whatever. Anyway they refuse to get the covid vaccinations because they believe in total predestination. So they are not going to get vaccinated because when it's time for them to die or be killed or taken up by aliens, it is their time. They have no right to mess with time in case what has been predetermined happens to happen. They have no desire to miss it.
Soooooo there you go. Their version. So mostly started this thread to see what other versions are out there.

@galveston75 said
So what made me post this predestination thread is because of my stepdaughter. Her husband is a preacher of his own little church, in their house. He says no one knows the bible like he does so he started his own. Whatever. Anyway they refuse to get the covid vaccinations because they believe in total predestination. So they are not going to get vaccinated because when it ...[text shortened]... there you go. Their version. So mostly started this thread to see what other versions are out there.

@rajk999 said
How do we know who is called and who is chosen and who is neither.
I suspect nobody knows.

@galveston75 said
So what made me post this predestination thread is because of my stepdaughter. Her husband is a preacher of his own little church, in their house. He says no one knows the bible like he does so he started his own. Whatever. Anyway they refuse to get the covid vaccinations because they believe in total predestination. So they are not going to get vaccinated because when it ...[text shortened]... there you go. Their version. So mostly started this thread to see what other versions are out there.

@rajk999 said
How do we know who is called and who is chosen and who is neither.
I suspect nobody knows.

Unbelief is a terrible thing…

@divegeester said
Unbelief is a terrible thing…

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Thankfully I believe in humanity and our advancement in science and intellectual growth.

I suspect, in 2235, belief in God or gods will be seen as a curious and rather quaint thing from the past. (A bit like paper money and velcro).

@divegeester said
I don’t know; nevertheless the Bible seems to be adamant that predestination exists.

@galveston75 said
Just curious with a question for the future. How will science stop hate?

@rajk999 said
Of course it exists but I know there are Christians who will say they are all predestined for eternal life.

@divegeester said
Galveston75 indicated that he was in a state of unbelief.