15 Feb 12
Originally posted by FabianFnas1. God has killed no one that was not reprehensible or forewarned, clearly an
You avoid very cautiosly the points I have, what invalidate your arguments.
(1) God kills innocent babies. (according to Genisis)
(2) JW accept the death to babies denied blood transfusions. (according to JW principles)
(3) You think it is a murder to abort fetuses minutes after the conception. (according to you)
When you have straightened out the ...[text shortened]... bortions. If you avoid the points above, then I have to remind you of your schizoid personality.
unborn has no recourse to either and must suffer having its life removed from it on
no other basis than that of convenience.
2.If a hospital wishes to administer blood to a minor they may do so, your assertion
that our right to self determination, which affects no one but ourselves is somehow
akin to the unlawful killing of 115,000 thousand innocents per day is total lunacy, its
not even related.
3.You have no right to decide whether another person lives or dies, you are not a
God, you are psychotic, your conscience does not function and clearly you are in no
position to dictate who may live and who may not, are you
15 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHmm, you follow the ridiculous words of some uneducated backward superstitious people a few thousand years ago with the (almost too many to count) contradictions in your faiths core text and you call us pyschos for actually using the brain we are born with to think and not just blindly accept the absurdities that faiths such as yours offer.
Interesting that i was just thinking the same about you psychos.
It is times like these that you show the really ridiculous side to you and your religion and when l mean ridiculous - l mean WORTHY OF RIDICULE.
Your stance on abortion is an appalling double standard when you consider your and your faiths stance on blood tranfusions.
Very sad Robbie.
15 Feb 12
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Originally posted by nook7yawn, from someone who obviously has never read even less understood scripture,
Hmm, you follow the ridiculous words of some uneducated backward superstitious people a few thousand years ago with the (almost too many to count) contradictions in your faiths core text and you call us pyschos for actually using the brain we are born with to think and not just blindly accept the absurdities that faiths such as yours offer.
It is times lik ...[text shortened]... standard when you consider your and your faiths stance on blood tranfusions.
Very sad Robbie.
you pontificate from a position of ignorance, ironic i know, considering your statement.
One could mock your appeals to rationality and reason, indeed, lets test you out, how
will you rationalise to someone that, for some turn of fate, survived an abortion and is
now a healthy adult, what will you say to them? You had no right to life, do tell, lets
here your rationale.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou are either blind, or you just don't want to lose a discussion.
1. God has killed no one that was not reprehensible or forewarned, clearly an ...
2.If a hospital wishes to administer blood to a minor they may do so, your assertion ...
3.You have no right to decide whether another person lives or dies, you are not a ...
And I am not very much surpirsed. You are a creationist. You have much practice in denying the obvious. But that's your problem, deal with it yourself.
Explain to me how an unborn baby can listen to Noahs preaching.
Explain to me how an unborn baby can repent from sins.
Explain to me how killing an unborn baby is not a murder when abortion is.
Do you now understand that schizophrenia comes into my mind when I'm thinking about your kind of reasoning?
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tum tee tum tee tum, we are waiting, you might start with, man that was a lucky
escape! or, meh, you wouldn't have known any different anyway, so what's the
difference, or Im just glad that i wasn't nearly aborted, that will be sure to make them
feel real good.
15 Feb 12
Originally posted by FabianFnasAs i have stated it was the parents responsibility to make sure that their children were
You are either blind, or you just don't want to lose a discussion.
And I am not very much surpirsed. You are a creationist. You have much practice in denying the obvious. But that's your problem, deal with it yourself.
Explain to me how an unborn baby can listen to Noahs preaching.
Explain to me how an unborn baby can repent from sins.
Explain to ...[text shortened]... erstand that schizophrenia comes into my mind when I'm thinking about your kind of reasoning?
safe, they took no note and suffered the consequences, one does not build ones house
on the San Andreas Fault and complain if there is an earthquake, the error was their
own, they caused the deaths of their children by wilful negligence to their safety.
From someone whose conscience has failed them, i am surprised that you can
distinguish between anything.
15 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieEven bigger yawn.
yawn, from someone who obviously has never read even less understood scripture,
you pontificate from a position of ignorance, ironic i know, considering your statement.
One could mock your appeals to rationality and reason, indeed, lets test you out, how
will you rationalise to someone that, for some turn of fate, survived an abortion and is ...[text shortened]... dult, what will you say to them? You had no right to life, do tell, lets
here your rationale.
l have read plenty of religious texts including the bible. However unlike you l dont believe a story just because l am told to.
LOL , pontificate. l am calling you an undeniable hypocrite, you and others that would have such a diabolically hypocritical stance.
WOW what a test! gee Robbie it really gets to the heart of the matter.
In the bizarre example you present,l am sure that the person who chose to try and have an abortion would be in a very sad strange situation. l only hope that this was not the result of a rape or some such thing and that the "healthy adult" is a loved and cared for person.
The definition of when is a life and life is the issue. You say at conception. l dont, the law agrees with me in my country.
l have never had the experience of having to go through an abortion and would not wish it on anyone. l actually agree with you that it seems that many people have one due to reasons that l would not consider at all ncecessary.
It is really very sad Robbie that you cant separate your own views from anything different for long enough to see that not all things are black and white like you want them to be.
Your God by the very attributes you give it causes more death than anything else because it has the power to stop death but chooses not to.
Reality Robbie - learn to live in it it isnt that hard.
15 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo god, the bloody coward, blames the parents of the killings he is responsible to? Is this what you're saying?
As i have stated it was the parents responsibility to make sure that their children were
safe, they took no note and suffered the consequences, one does not build ones house
on the San Andreas Fault and complain if there is an earthquake, the error was their
own, they caused the deaths of their children by wilful negligence to their safety.
...[text shortened]... ne whose conscience has failed them, i am surprised that you can
distinguish between anything.
So the mother is not to blame for the abortion, it is the father who impregnate her? Is this what you're saying?
Yes, we can always blame the killing of sombode else. There are no murderers, there are always victims who are at the wrong place. It's always the victims fault.
I don't understand. But I'm not a fundamentalist , nor a JW culter, so what do I understand anyway...
Your god kills innocent people. You kill babies denying them a well needed blood transfusion. But you blame innocent mothers geting an abortion?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieclearly you have failed to demonstrate why my stance on blood which affects no one but me
clearly you have failed to demonstrate why my stance on blood which affects no one
but me (any individual is free to take blood from any other source making your
assertion quite ludicrous) has anything to do with denying life to 115,000 innocents
every single day. You , Fabian and the Cat are the ones that are full of it and have as
usual, w pinion, for clearly their conscience has become
desensitised to the point of failing to work.
I have explained three times now by my counting, but as per usual anything which you don't wish to register is simply ignored. I don't know why i bother, in fact i won't. Trying to reason with someone who is quite frankly as deluded and as egotistically arrogant as you is a painful pointless task. I might as well talk to the wall. Have a nice life Rob.
15 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf its a viable life then a life is not being taken is it 'O' befuddled one. if the woman simply ejects the baby from her body and it dies then it must be gods will. If on the other hand it is not a viable life then any action taken to terminate it cannot be murder; because the life was,nt viable to begin with. Since finding this forum i have been pleased to note that theists do not seem to be any thicker than the athiests, but you robbie quite independent of your beliefs are really thick OH thats unless your quoting/citing somebody else. And like all bible thumpers your are moral coward.
you start by picking up your Bible, opening its pages, reading the words, reflecting
upon those words so that they percolate from the mind to the heart, the seat of
motivation and you are moved to action. We have no issues, to us life is life, it is
sacred and cannot be taken by anyone, you have literally become a murderer, you
are depriving ...[text shortened]... o further than that which
is material, the worst case of spiritual myopia i think i have seen.
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Originally posted by kevcvs57life wasn't viable? wast viable? viable? more moral relativism and materialistic
If its a viable life then a life is not being taken is it 'O' befuddled one. if the woman simply ejects the baby from her body and it dies then it must be gods will. If on the other hand it is not a viable life then any action taken to terminate it cannot be murder; because the life was,nt viable to begin with. Since finding this forum i have been pleased ...[text shortened]... s unless your quoting/citing somebody else. And like all bible thumpers your are moral coward.
definition of what constitutes life and what does not. When were you qualified to decide
what lives and does not live? Clearly your another psycho killer/ supporter of mass
murder. The defining characteristic of all the materialists is that like the psycho killer
they are remorseless in this regard, in other words, due to impairment of the faculty of
conscience they are truly unable to distinguish between right and wrong the bitter irony
of which is, they are lecturers in morality despite the impairment.
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Originally posted by FabianFnasyou heard it, suck it up, that's exactly what i am saying, in comparison to the materialist mass murderer, my God is irreproachable.
So god, the bloody coward, blames the parents of the killings he is responsible to? Is this what you're saying?
So the mother is not to blame for the abortion, it is the father who impregnate her? Is this what you're saying?
Yes, we can always blame the killing of sombode else. There are no murderers, there are always victims who are at the wrong plac ng them a well needed blood transfusion. But you blame innocent mothers geting an abortion?
15 Feb 12
Originally posted by nook7where is your rationale to the survivor of abortion who now lives a healthy and full life,
Even bigger yawn.
l have read plenty of religious texts including the bible. However unlike you l dont believe a story just because l am told to.
LOL , pontificate. l am calling you an undeniable hypocrite, you and others that would have such a diabolically hypocritical stance.
WOW what a test! gee Robbie it really gets to the heart of the matter.
...[text shortened]... r to stop death but chooses not to.
Reality Robbie - learn to live in it it isnt that hard.
oh its ok for you to enjoy life, but you would deny that to others, total hypocrisy of the
worst kind.