@philokalia saidAll the Christians here post as they see fit and do so in accordance with their subjective values.
But, yes, if you do not believe in an objective right & wrong and/or just believe in some subjective set of values that you determine... then, of course, the only way to post at all is how you see fit.
@suzianne saidNo one should think they require to prove their love for God to anyone. However if someone claims to love God but doesn’t love their neighbor they’re probably lying.
I say that if someone requires "proof" from me of my love for God, then they can just pound sand.
I don't have to justify myself before men. Mouths can lie, the heart does not.
20 May 19
@dj2becker saidI do not see it as an "either/or". Apparently, neither did Jesus:
No one should think they require to prove their love for God to anyone. However if someone claims to love God but doesn’t love their neighbor they’re probably lying.
"Master, which [is] the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." - Matthew 22:36-40 KJV
Both are required, but there is no shortage of those who do one but not the other. Likewise, there are many that claim to do both, yet do neither.
But it is also not my position to judge. I require no "proof".
@suzianne saidAgreed.
I do not see it as an "either/or". Apparently, neither did Jesus:
"Master, which [is] the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two co ...[text shortened]... claim to do both, yet do neither.
But it is also not my position to judge. I require no "proof".
20 May 19
@divegeester saidThe title says nothing about proving myself to anyone.
In the title of your OP, or are you personally excluded from your premise and the quote you made?
Do you think that it’s possible to love God and not love your neighbor?
20 May 19
@dj2becker saidBased on the attitudes of many Christians toward the impoverished, providing equal healthcare to all, the LGBT community, etc., the answer for such Christians is "Yes".
The title says nothing about proving myself to anyone.
Do you think that it’s possible to love God and not love your neighbor?
20 May 19
@dj2becker saidIt’s ok if you can’t reply to my posts, no need to start this sort of Galveston75ish commentary.
You just don’t get it do you?
@suzianne saidDj2becker seems to want to talk about “proof” when it is neither required nor needed. It’s a bit of an odd thing.
I say that if someone requires "proof" from me of my love for God, then they can just pound sand.
I don't have to justify myself before men. Mouths can lie, the heart does not.
I agree with you by the way.
@dj2becker saidIf no one should be required to provide proof then what is the proof for?
No one should think they require to prove their love for God to anyone. However if someone claims to love God but doesn’t love their neighbor they’re probably lying.
@dj2becker saidOk so who is the proof for?
The title says nothing about proving myself to anyone.
@divegeester saidWell if you did get it you would have realized the title of the thread is just of few of the words of the quote shared in the OP and it’s not like it’s aimed for/at someone specific.
It’s ok if you can’t reply to my posts, no need to start this sort of Galveston75ish commentary.
@divegeester saidIt could be for an individual analyzing their own love for God.
If no one should be required to provide proof then what is the proof for?
@thinkofone saidIf the love of God is in you, you will help the poor.
Based on the attitudes of many Christians toward the impoverished, providing equal healthcare to all, the LGBT community, etc., the answer for such Christians is "Yes".
@dj2becker saidBut you said no one was required to provide “proof”, no should feel like they have to provide “proof”.
Whoever is looking for proof.