Reasons for disbelief in the Christian God

@sonship said
Interesting comment. In the meantime I found this rather interesting about induced conversations.

@kellyjay said
Okay we have been talking about a child suffering this whole time, NOW you are concern about indigestion, pardon me for taking you seriously.

@kellyjay said
Okay we have been talking about a child suffering this whole time, NOW you are concern about indigestion, pardon me for taking you seriously.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
No, 'I' have been talking about a child's suffering this whole thread. Christians like yourself have spent most of the thread trying to divert into more general forms of suffering that can be explained away by free will or an opportunity to learn etc.

How have you missed that? (I also used the 'indigestion' analogy before to differentiate between the suffering of an innocent and self inflicted suffering).

@kellyjay said
Divert?
You have selective seeing!
You have still have not responded to the questions I have been asking you.
I think you prefer having the topic not the answers.

@kellyjay said
Divert?
You have selective seeing!
You have still have not responded to the questions I have been asking you.
I think you prefer having the topic not the answers.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Please link to one question you think I haven't answered in relation to the topic of this thread.

As I said previously, you have pretty much ignored the main question of this thread and replaced it with an easier one that you then set about answering.

@kellyjay said
Not question, questions and I will compile a list with page numbers for you when I have time. You may feel I have attempted to avoid your question, I feel you have been doing the same with mine.

Hopefully we are both wrong about that!

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

You don't think an egoistic self-congratulation negates an altruistic act?

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

As thread creator, I got to set the parameters.

@sonship said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

As thread creator, I got to set the parameters.

Boy! Do I ever get into trouble whenever I try to set parameters on threads I start.

" He's talking to himself again, guys ! "

" Ahem. Go start a blog."

"Oh sonship, no one is reading anyway. he, he,"

@sonship said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

You don't think an egoistic self-congratulation negates an altruistic act?

No, not entirely.

It exposes some imperfection, that one is not as pure as the Son of God - Jesus Christ - the PERFECT human being.

No, some boasting does not entirely render some good behavior completely worthless.

Someday, ... SOMEDAY, it may sink into you that the ONLY perfect man was Jesus.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
As thread creator, I got to set the parameters. You stepped outside of them almost immediately. Again, your reasons for suffering apply more to the chap with self-inflicted indigestion than the 'innocent' as laid out in this thread.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Ah yes, the Atheist appeals once again to the authority of Scripture.

I think my answer is the same, although I did not know you mean of boasting OF the altruistic ACTS immediately itself. I think I thought of BOASTING in some other arena rendering the altruistic act null and void.

I don't think, then, the act of liberality is null and void entirely because one soon after boasted. You are welcomed to have a different opinion. I don't think it is an argument that is too critical.

We all MISS THE MARK.
None if us hit the Bull's Eye.

Jesus everytime hit the bull's eye. He was perfect.

If you want to win this argument, its seems not too big a deal to me at the moment.

Must run now.

If you are struggling with this, perhaps Matthew 6:3 is worth a read:

'But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.'

@ghost-of-a-duke said
As thread creator, I got to set the parameters. You stepped outside of them almost immediately. Again, your reasons for suffering apply more to the chap with self-inflicted indigestion than the 'innocent' as laid out in this thread.