06 Sep 11
Originally posted by Proper KnobGhazals sung by Mehdi Hasan,Jagjit and Chitra Singh, Ghulam Ali, Pankaj Udhas and some film songs set to music by Madan Mohan et al are my favourites. ' Besame Mucho ' sung by many greats as well as played by many instrumentalists is also a favourhte.
So what does rvsakhadeo classify as 'great music'?
06 Sep 11
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoIs that a long way from "Primus"? Sounds like it ...
Ghazals sung by Mehdi Hasan,Jagjit and Chitra Singh, Ghulam Ali, Pankaj Udhas and some film songs set to music by Madan Mohan et al are my favourites. ' Besame Mucho ' sung by many greats as well as played by many instrumentalists is also a favourhte.
06 Sep 11
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoSo, as with many theists, an emotional experience led you to believing the first religion that came your way? Do you realize that if the next book you read had been the Quran, you would now be Muslim?
The reaction,although genuine,did not convince me about existence of God. It was on subsequent readings of Adya Shankaracharya,Vivekanand,Ramakrishna, Ramatirtha and last but not the least my Guru Kalavati books and pondering over that I have come to believe in God.
06 Sep 11
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoWell anything can. Books, an acquaintance, drugs, loneliness, mountain walking, a near death experience and so on. Atheists turn into believers for all manner of reasons, just as believers can turn into atheists for all kinds of reasons. Thanks for clearing up what your theory about music actually is. It was incoherent there for a couple of pages.
My OP stated" Music has the power to turn an atheist into a believer.".
06 Sep 11
Originally posted by twhiteheadOur Religion is something that we are born into,an entry in our birth register. I turned into a theist. I did not turn into a Hindu. I was already a Hindu. Hinduism was ,to me,my cultural identity. My theism and my cultural identity(which happened to be my religion lso) are two different things. Many Muslims in our country are culturally Hindus.
So, as with many theists, an emotional experience led you to believing the first religion that came your way? Do you realize that if the next book you read had been the Quran, you would now be Muslim?
06 Sep 11
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Originally posted by rvsakhadeoThe song ' Besame Mucho ' contains a line ' each time I cling to your kiss, I hear music divine ' !
Ghazals sung by Mehdi Hasan,Jagjit and Chitra Singh, Ghulam Ali, Pankaj Udhas and some film songs set to music by Madan Mohan et al are my favourites. ' Besame Mucho ' sung by many greats as well as played by many instrumentalists is also a favourhte.
06 Sep 11
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Originally posted by rvsakhadeoI like Gulam Ali, Shazia Manzoor, Falguni Patak and Ashe Bosle etc etc . While many songs are popular love ballads there are also some utterly sublime poetic works which deal with spiritual issues, such as Awargi (it means being wayward as you are aware) and is really a young man questioning who he is, what he has become and why he became that way, the sound of the tabla and the harmonium lend itself wonderfully to this type of recital and what is more, people adore this type of thought provoking song.
The song ' Besame Mucho ' contains a line ' each time I cling to your kiss, I hear music divine ' !
06 Sep 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieVery true! Ghulam Ali visits India now and then but visits of the great Mehdi Hassan have become rare now.
I like Gulam Ali, Shazia Manzoor, Falguni Patak and Ashe Bosle etc etc . While many songs are popular love ballads there are also some utterly sublime poetic works which deal with spiritual issues, such as Awargi (it means being wayward as you are aware) and is really a young man questioning who he is, what he has become and why he became that way, ...[text shortened]... ully to this type of recital and what is more, people adore this type of thought provoking song.
06 Sep 11
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoOh, ok, fair enough. I certainly agree that there's something wondrous and perhaps spiritual about great music. And I find that the practice of listening to music attunes one to it's appreciation - all hail mp3.
Sorry,my general statement was an angry response to shaviximir' personal attack! I thank you for your kind opinion of my posts.
06 Sep 11
I like Indian music very much. The singing of the women is often quite beautiful. The use of what we in the west might call "microtones" is very beautiful. That is intervals smaller than a half tone.
The rhythms to ragas on the drums I find very intriguing.
I am a musician and am interested in music around the world.
06 Sep 11
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoSo do you refer to 'religion' as 'culture'? Its not very clear from your post.
Our Religion is something that we are born into,an entry in our birth register. I turned into a theist. I did not turn into a Hindu. I was already a Hindu. Hinduism was ,to me,my cultural identity. My theism and my cultural identity(which happened to be my religion lso) are two different things. Many Muslims in our country are culturally Hindus.
Do you understand my point that if you were introduced to some other explanation for your emotional experience then there is a high likelihood that that is what you would have believed. For example if someone had told you it was all about aliens, or spirits of your ancestors.
Atheists in general experience the same emotions, but come to different conclusions about their origin.