07 Apr 17
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhy have you stated that you are not concerned about other Christians who are being oppressed in Russia, Robbie?
and yet you have FAILED miserably to provide any compelling evidence that this State sponsored persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses is part of a ' broader assault against Christians'.
12 Apr 17
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt's funny how so may here proclaim that the world is getting better on just about every level which is the opposite of what the bible says would happen in the "last days". So they ignore the bible and it's prophesies and claim "all things are still the same as in the past" And even "put their trust in earthly man" to solve all of the worlds problems.
Rather interestingly if we lose this case we shall have the same legal status as ISIS.
Reading the Bible together or talking to others about their faith could lead to prosecutions, they added. Properties dedicated to worship and almost 400 legal entities could also be dissolved, they said.
Vasiliy Kalin, a representative for the Russian group, ...[text shortened]... europe/russian-government-jehovahs-witnesses-extremist-group-lawsuit-supreme-court-a7634671.html
But they all forget and deny who's in control which is Satan. No earthly man or government can fight him or change his ways no matter how sincere they man be to make the earth a better place.
13 Apr 17
Originally posted by galveston75Well, in so many important and fundamental ways that affect the vast majority of ordinary people living their lives all across the globe, things are getting better, ongoing problems and challenges notwithstanding. So what does it actually matter if it is "the opposite of what the bible says" other than, perhaps, your prophesy is mistaken? Make a case.
It's funny how so may here proclaim that the world is getting better on just about every level which is the opposite of what the bible says would happen in the "last days".
13 Apr 17
Originally posted by galveston75By "they", presumably you are referring to people more optimistic about the state of the world and the human condition than you are: i.e. people like me. Now, if I simply don't believe that the supernatural figure you call "Satan" exists, how can you credibly claim that I "forget" he is in control?
But they all forget and deny who's in control which is Satan.
Originally posted by FMFThe Orthodox are not under attack in Russia.
No one has denied that the JWs are under assault in Russia. The point, though, is that there is a broader assault against Christians going on in that country and it is an issue of the fundamental human rights connected with religious observance. You have taken a stance which seems to be in denial of this.
Originally posted by FMFand yet your claim that the action brought by the Russian government against Jehovahs Witnesses was simply part of a much broader persecution of Christians remains unconvincing.
I know. I didn't claim they were. I posted several links to illustrate the extent to which Christians and their human right are under attack.
20 Apr 17
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/supreme-court-bans-jehovahs-witnesses-in-russia/ar-BBA5BDo?ocid=sf
So it looks like Russia has decided. A very sad day but one that is to be expected. The Witnesses did very well before when they had to worship in hiding and will do fine now. No man run government can stand against Jehovah's will.
How do the American players here feel about this with the laws of this land that are to protect it's citizens with religious freedom?
Originally posted by galveston75Extremists? my goodness. Sickest thing I have heard but like you say to be expected. Looks like its back to the forest again for mass picnics. At least we wont be shipped off to Siberia this time though. Literature will need to be smuggled around though and Bibles hidden.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/supreme-court-bans-jehovahs-witnesses-in-russia/ar-BBA5BDo?ocid=sf
So it looks like Russia has decided. A very sad day but one that is to be expected. The Witnesses did very well before when they had to worship in hiding and will do fine now. No man run government can stand against Jehovah's will.
How do the Ame ...[text shortened]... about this with the laws of this land that are to protect it's citizens with religious freedom?
20 Apr 17
Originally posted by galveston75Robbie has stated in this thread that he is not interested in the persecution of other Christian sects outside of the JWs; how do you feel about this subject?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/supreme-court-bans-jehovahs-witnesses-in-russia/ar-BBA5BDo?ocid=sf
So it looks like Russia has decided. A very sad day but one that is to be expected. The Witnesses did very well before when they had to worship in hiding and will do fine now. No man run government can stand against Jehovah's will.
How do the Ame ...[text shortened]... about this with the laws of this land that are to protect it's citizens with religious freedom?
20 Apr 17
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhy have you stated that you are not concerned about other Christians who are being oppressed in Russia, Robbie?
Extremists? my goodness. Sickest thing I have heard but like you say to be expected. Looks like its back to the forest again for mass picnics. At least we wont be shipped off to Siberia this time though. Literature will need to be smuggled around though and Bibles hidden.
20 Apr 17
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWell before it's over more countries will be doing this and eventually even worse.
Extremists? my goodness. Sickest thing I have heard but like you say to be expected. Looks like its back to the forest again for mass picnics. At least we wont be shipped off to Siberia this time though. Literature will need to be smuggled around though and Bibles hidden.
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20 Apr 17
Originally posted by robbie carrobie"Extremists? my goodness. Sickest thing I have heard but like you say to be expected."
Extremists? my goodness. Sickest thing I have heard but like you say to be expected. Looks like its back to the forest again for mass picnics. At least we wont be shipped off to Siberia this time though. Literature will need to be smuggled around though and Bibles hidden.
So what if it's an extremist organization? If it's correct in belief and action, that's not sick, it's healthy. What it really means it that it would have people do things that the people in charge don't want it to do.
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." -Barry Goldwater