07 Apr 17
Originally posted by FMFthe principle is the same, tell us why he should be concerned with how his case effects the outcome of others? If you cannot then your question is once again nonsensical.
Answering a charge of assault in court and asserting your human rights in court are two completely different matters.
07 Apr 17
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt's surely part of a broader resistance to and rejection of the Russian government restricting or ignoring the rights of minority groups, or even persecuting them, isn't it now?
the principle is the same, tell us why he should be concerned with how his case effects the outcome of others? If you cannot then your question is once again nonsensical.
Originally posted by FMFIs it? well its your narrative and you are free to make it up you as you go along.
It's surely part of a broader resistance to and rejection of the Russian government restricting or ignoring the rights of minority groups, or even persecuting them, isn't it now?
07 Apr 17
Originally posted by robbie carrobieDo you not see what is happening to your group as being part of a pattern in which the Russian government is restricting the rights of its citizens?
Is it? well its your narrative and you are free to make it up you as you go along.
07 Apr 17
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf the law in Russia says the JWs are a proscribed group then that is the legal reality: why would the JWs mount a legal struggle against the law in Russia if not to assert and protect what they believe are the rights of their members?
A human right? I don't know. It might be.
07 Apr 17
Originally posted by FMFActually you will need to be corrected again.
It's surely part of a broader resistance to and rejection of the Russian government restricting or ignoring the rights of minority groups, or even persecuting them, isn't it now?
On March 15, Russia's Justice Ministry filed a claim with the country's Supreme Court, calling on it to designate the Administrative Center of Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia an "extremist" organization and liquidate the group's national headquarters and 395 local chapters in Russia.
Its not a 'broader resistance to and rejection of the Russian government restricting or ignoring the rights of minority groups' - thats a pile of old croc. Its a response to a legal action brought against Jehovahs Witnesses by the Russian government not some ideological crusade that you made up.
07 Apr 17
Originally posted by FMFPlease see the above post. It may help you if you did some research prior to entering debate and it would save you from forming silly questions which have little basis in anything other than your imagination.
If the law in Russia says the JWs are a proscribed group then that is the legal reality: why would the JWs mount a legal struggle against the law in Russia if not to assert and protect what they believe are the rights of their members?
07 Apr 17
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhy did you leave words out of my sentence when you quoted it?
Its not a 'broader resistance to and rejection of the Russian government restricting or ignoring the rights of minority groups' - thats a pile of old croc.
I said "It's surely part of a broader resistance to and rejection of the Russian government restricting or ignoring the rights of minority groups". I did not say that the JW actions was a broader resistance, I suggested it is part of a a broader resistance. But you quoted only a part of my sentence.
07 Apr 17
Originally posted by FMFSure pedantry is always useful, but not so much this time.
Why did you leave words out of my sentence when you quoted it?
I said "It's surely part of a broader resistance to and rejection of the Russian government restricting or ignoring the rights of minority groups". I did not say that the JW actions was a broader resistance, I suggested it is part of a a broader resistance. But you quoted only a part of my sentence.
07 Apr 17
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo you do not see the JW legal action in Russia as them seeking to assert the right to have a national headquarters and to have 395 local chapters around the country?
Its a response to a legal action brought against Jehovahs Witnesses by the Russian government not some ideological crusade that you made up.
07 Apr 17
Originally posted by FMFNow you are blubbering gibberish.
Why did you leave words out of my sentence when you quoted it?
I said "It's surely part of a broader resistance to and rejection of the Russian government restricting or ignoring the rights of minority groups". I did not say that the JW actions was a broader resistance, I suggested it is part of a a broader resistance. But you quoted only a part of my sentence.