say 'no' to satan

Originally posted by googlefudge
G. W. Bush allegedly has an IQ of around 120~130 which is good enough to place him in the top 95 percentile
(in other words out of every 100 people on average 5 would be as smart or smarter) of the population however
he is still an idiot because he didn't use that intellect.

He did and said things that were irrevocably stupid.

The fact that he ...[text shortened]... air was a smarmy slimy lying scumbag who should be rotting in jail for the crimes he committed.

That is about where my IQ was too when I was about 20 years old.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
He was our worst president ever, but he had the BEST and most entertaining gaffes of any president ever. 🙂

Many of the gaffes were deliberate. Bush had studied a way of saying one thing while making your audience hear another. His speeches were carefully crafted and when words sound out of place it is usually intentional - he wanted certain words in his speech and he put them there whether they fit or not.
I first saw an analysis of this in a childrens magazine, but I cant find the copy. However there is a discussion of it here:
http://www.figarospeech.com/talk-like-bush

Originally posted by twhitehead
Many of the gaffes were deliberate. Bush had studied a way of saying one thing while making your audience hear another. His speeches were carefully crafted and when words sound out of place it is usually intentional - he wanted certain words in his speech and he put them there whether they fit or not.
I first saw an analysis of this in a childrens magazi ...[text shortened]... the copy. However there is a discussion of it here:
http://www.figarospeech.com/talk-like-bush

Maybe, it is because I was raised in Texas, but I do not find him hard to understand at all. Everything he says makes perfect sense to me and I understand every word, unlike his dog.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I know anyone can be an educated fool and believe and do stupid things. But G. W. Bush was not a stupid person. He was a very good governor of the state of Texas. He got some bad advice on how to handle the war against al-Qaeda and should have put more effort in Afghanistan in the beginning to get their leader Osama Bin Laden. But due to the connection a ...[text shortened]... ies.

By the way, I have never called the [b]greatest scientific minds of our time stupid.[/b]

"I know anyone can be an educated fool and believe and do stupid things. But G. W. Bush was not a stupid person"

sorry but the man is an idiot, he has no understanding of global politics and seems to have watched too many westerns, his constant comments about "good guys and bad guys" is a childs view of the world. its never entered his thick skull that to most of the world america is viewed as a "bad guy". he should have spent more time talking to historians and political experts from around the world, iraq has been a battlefield for thousands of years, what made him think he could role in with his tanks and change anything...stupidity and arrogance.
he may have been a good governor in texas, its more his level, straight talking cowboy spiel, deals done in titty bars and golf coarses with the old boys network. but global politics is several leagues above and takes are real thinker not an ex-alcoholic playboy baffoon that fell into politics because he'd ran out of things to do.

He got some bad advice on how to handle the war against al-Qaeda

he's the president!!!!! its his job to make sure he gets these thing right!!!!! why did he just listen to the cia!!!!! why not listen to middle eastern experts, why didnt he look at the history of the area!!! because he was stupid and wanted to give somebody a kick-in after 9/11 regardless if they had anything to do with it.

" But due to the connection and support that al-Qaeda was receiving through Iraq"

iraq was nowhere near the main source of support for al-qaeda. saudi arabia is number one, then pakistan then egypt. why didnt bush go for one of them. why does america have such a strong relationship with saudi arabi!!!!! is it because if the saudis pulled their money out of the u.s. it would cripple america?

Saddam Hussein was defying the United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 and shooting at our planes that were flying over Irag

what would america do if iraq had flown war planes of u.s. soil? if the u.n put restriction on the u.s due to its illegal invasion of iraq do you think the u.s. would listen? im not saying hussain was right, but he's gonna try and look after his interest, oil.

"should have put more effort in Afghanista"

or pakistan as it turned out. the war in afganistan is against the taliban, afganistan is a recruitment area for al-qaeda but killing taliban isnt going to help, it just creates more anger and more rebellion and creates more terrorists. the sensible way is to slowly change a country, improving its wealth is the main way, but the west likes to keep the middle east and africa poor so we do not have to share resources.

We also needed to protect our oil interests in the Middle East and our only democratic ally in the region, Israel

well i agree in the first bit, the most sensible thing you have said. iraq is no threat to israel. israel would have battered iraq. iran is the main threat and is today. where was america when iran was building nuclear devices??? america wouldnt go to war with iran because iran would put up one hell of a fight. it would be vietnam^100

But will little support from those European nations we thought were or allies, like France, we were somewhat limited in our actions.

so rather than accepting that these nations were correct and did the right thing by not going to war, you are going to whinge that they should have supported you anyway?? thats crazy, maybe bush should have listened to what they had to say.

In my opinion, it was actions from the democratic opposition and from the greedy that screwed our economy more than the war

it was the sub prime mortgage lending that screwed the u.s. and europe. the greed of the american rich also. right wing politicians have always thought that money should be fed from the top and should drip down to the bottom, the rich get rich and the poor - poorer. your democrats are not really liberals in the eyes of europe they are still right wing, you guys really are just choosing on personalities. i think obama is a secret lefty, but is too scared to say so. sadly british politics has gone the same way after blair raped the labour party and destroyed socialism.

{The war in Iraq did topple an evil dictator and gave the people more freedom

what will have improved once the troops have gone?

have you guys in the u.s. paid attention to the arab spring? have you seen what happens when people want change rather than having it enforced by an invader?

By the way, I have never called the [b]greatest scientific minds of our time stupid[/b]

you have called the big bang theory stupid that would be calling the majority of the world top physicists stupid. you have done the same about evolution and geology.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Maybe, it is because I was raised in Texas, but I do not find him hard to understand at all. Everything he says makes perfect sense to me and I understand every word, unlike his dog.

people didnt have trouble understanding him, the opposite is probably true. he spoke in simple way, speaking like an average joe on the street. this may have appealed to texans who doent like thing to be too taxing for them to understand (not too many big words to confuse them). in europe we like our politicians to be great orators and show great wisdom or quick whit, sharp use of language. we do not want a guy to dumb things down. how many times did he get the name wrong of other presidents? or trip over his words? its like he had no education regarding the rest of the world and it never struck him to learn when he decided to be president. maybe if itwasnt for those damn hanging chads it would have all been different.
you guys in texas may of liked him, but the rest of the planet was laughing at him. its strange the rest of the world love obama and texans hate him.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
sorry but the man is an idiot, he has no understanding of global politics and seems to have watched too many westerns, his constant comments about "good guys and bad guys" is a childs view of the world. its never entered his thick skull that to most of the world america is viewed as a "bad guy". he should have spent more time talking to historians and p ...[text shortened]... ade him think he could role in with his tanks and change anything...stupidity and arrogance.

If thats what you really think then you are seriously naive about politics and Bush. The real "childs view of the world" is the one you are portraying where you appear to think that every politician actually wants to do what's best for his country or the world. Bush is many things, but he is no idiot. It is not easy to get to be president of the US (though the main requirement is money, even that has to come from somewhere).

Originally posted by stellspalfie
you guys in texas may of liked him, but the rest of the planet was laughing at him.

The rest of the world doesn't get to vote (in US elections), so he didn't really care.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Everything he says makes perfect sense to me and I understand every word, unlike his dog.

Maybe it made sense to you, but it was often not proper English - and frequently somewhat nonsensical, but that didn't matter to him, what mattered is what image people took away at the end of the speech, what key words they remembered.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
[b]"I know anyone can be an educated fool and believe and do stupid things. But G. W. Bush was not a stupid person"

sorry but the man is an idiot, he has no understanding of global politics and seems to have watched too many westerns, his constant comments about "good guys and bad guys" is a childs view of the world. its never entered his thick he world top physicists stupid. you have done the same about evolution and geology.[/b]

Well, we didn't know we were going to be in a war when Bush was elected president or we might have looked for someone more like an Eisenhower, who knew something about war. But G. W. Bush did a good job as governor of Texas and his brother Jeb was doing okay as governor of Florida, so he seemed to be a reasonable choice over the liberal democrat Al Gore.

P.S. Any scientist that believes in evolution can't be great in my opinion.

Originally posted by twhitehead
If thats what you really think then you are seriously naive about politics and Bush. The real "childs view of the world" is the one you are portraying where you appear to think that every politician actually wants to do what's best for his country or the world. Bush is many things, but he is no idiot. It is not easy to get to be president of the US (though the main requirement is money, even that has to come from somewhere).

what??? what?? where have i been naive about bush? where have i portrayed that politicians want to do the best for their country or the world? i think your reading between the wrong lines.

bush is an idiot, ill stand by that. just behind blair and thatcher on my list of big ol'idiots list of politicians.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Well, we didn't know we were going to be in a war when Bush was elected president or we might have looked for someone more like an Eisenhower, who knew something about war. But G. W. Bush did a good job as governor of Texas and his brother Jeb was doing okay as governor of Florida, so he seemed to be a reasonable choice over the liberal democrat Al Gore.

P.S. Any scientist that believes in evolution can't be great in my opinion.

" so he seemed to be a reasonable choice over the liberal democrat Al Gore."

good point, ME 2 YOU 1


dont get me started on florida, ive spent the last few weeks writing an essay about the votomtic election machines used in the florida 2000 elections, im sick to death of jeb and florida.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
what??? what?? where have i been naive about bush? where have i portrayed that politicians want to do the best for their country or the world? i think your reading between the wrong lines.

bush is an idiot, ill stand by that. just behind blair and thatcher on my list of big ol'idiots list of politicians.

You are way below Bush in intelligence. So if he is an idiot that must make you a numbnuts. 😏

Originally posted by stellspalfie
" so he seemed to be a reasonable choice over the liberal democrat Al Gore."

[b]good point, ME 2 YOU 1


dont get me started on florida, ive spent the last few weeks writing an essay about the votomtic election machines used in the florida 2000 elections, im sick to death of jeb and florida.[/b]

After all these years and you liberal democrats still can't get over it. You lost! 😏

Originally posted by RJHinds
You are way below Bush in intelligence. So if he is an idiot that must make you a numbnuts. 😏

haha!! freakishly close to the truth, my wife calls me numbnuts!!!

Originally posted by RJHinds
After all these years and you liberal democrats still can't get over it. You lost! 😏

i was actually agreeing with you about gore. my studies on the vote in florida supported the results that were declared, although i was only looking at the votomatic machine.


dont you think socialism is a nice word.