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11 Jun 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyAnd you failed spectacularly to demonstrate anything of the sort.
The sole intent of "What word does an avowed atheist exclaim or moan at the peak of sexual orgasm?" is/was to illustrate the likelihood of a subliminal or subconscious awareness or recognition of the existence of God. Nothing more.
Apart from the idiocy of "avowed atheist", the language used in any extremis tends
to be that which flows most naturally, IE that which was learned when young.
The suitability or validity of the language is irrelevant.
We live in a world with a long history of fervent religious belief which has had a huge
influence on the language we use. Exclaiming "Oh God" [at anything] in no way
demonstrates either that god exists, or that the person doing the exclaiming is thinking
about or believes in god. It's JUST a phrase. That is all.
11 Jun 14
Originally posted by googlefudge"That is all." -googlefudge
And you failed spectacularly to demonstrate anything of the sort.
Apart from the idiocy of "avowed atheist", the language used in any extremis tends
to be that which flows most naturally, IE that which was learned when young.
The suitability or validity of the language is irrelevant.
We live in a world with a long history of fervent religious be ...[text shortened]... on doing the exclaiming is thinking
about or believes in god. It's JUST a phrase. That is all.
Guess that dictum precludes reply.
12 Jun 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbySo do you now know that what people exclaim is largely cultural and of course language dependent? Or are you continuing to insist on your claim despite all evidence to the contrary?
The sole intent of "What word does an avowed atheist exclaim or moan at the peak of sexual orgasm?" is/was to illustrate the likelihood of a subliminal or subconscious awareness or recognition of the existence of God. Nothing more.
12 Jun 14
Originally posted by twhitehead"... largely cultural and of course language dependent?" Yes. And their spoken and/or unspoken assumptions and beliefs.
So do you now know that what people exclaim is largely cultural and of course language dependent? Or are you continuing to insist on your claim despite all evidence to the contrary?
12 Jun 14
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemOriginally posted by BigDoggProblem
..and back you go onto the block list. It is so much more peaceful reading these forums without your posts in them.
"Why be prudish? Perfect environment and perfect sex were God's Wedding Gifts to the first man and woman in the Garden."
Neither the first man nor first woman, who walked naked 24/7 were the least bit inhibited or boastful; they were fulfilled.
BDP, where's the disconnect between the direct question: "Why be prudish?" and the accuracy of a graphic answer?
12 Jun 14
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI would fully agree that beliefs have a big impact, but those beliefs cannot be directly determined from the content of the exclamation.
And their spoken and/or unspoken assumptions and beliefs.
So for example, I personally do tend to avoid religious exclamations (despite cultural conditioning) because of my beliefs or lack thereof.
I also avoid rude words in my exclamations because of how I feel about foul language.
I might use a word like aigoo (korean with no particular meaning) or tian (chinese meaning 'heaven' ) because I watch a lot of korean and chinese soapies. But neither of those expressions will tell you anything whatsoever about my religious beliefs, and if they had referred to particular deities, they would still tell you nothing.
This morning I heard my son say 'Oh my word!'. What does that tell you about his unspoken assumptions and beliefs?
12 Jun 14
Originally posted by twhiteheadThough the two are intertwined, I'd agree that cultural conditioning often trumps assumptions and beliefs. Insightful reply.
I would fully agree that beliefs have a big impact, but those beliefs cannot be directly determined from the content of the exclamation.
So for example, I personally do tend to avoid religious exclamations (despite cultural conditioning) because of my beliefs or lack thereof.
I also avoid rude words in my exclamations because of how I feel about foul la ...[text shortened]... rd my son say 'Oh my word!'. What does that tell you about his unspoken assumptions and beliefs?