02 May 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAre you feeling OK?
I have documented them and I am waiting for your evidence.
here are your words again divesjeester, lets see you substantiate them or be forever known as the hypocrite that you evidently purport to be. Your accusations were and i quote,
1.contradictions about your concrete beliefs,
2. your presumptions about other people and their beliefs
3. y ...[text shortened]... ance and where have i displayed intellectual dishonesty? you said it, so where is your evidence?
What have you documented and what evidence is it you want?
02 May 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHow does Proverbs 6:17 sit with your often expressed conviction that ALL 'shedding of blood' is "sin"? Can 6:17 perhaps be used to justify killing in self-defence, fighting in a just war, and executing people for crimes?
because perhaps he likes to reason on things objectively without reducing elements to a personal level.
02 May 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI've pointed out your contradiction on page 6 post 11.
I have documented them and I am waiting for your evidence.
here are your words again divesjeester, lets see you substantiate them or be forever known as the hypocrite that you evidently purport to be. Your accusations were and i quote,
1.contradictions about your concrete beliefs,
2. your presumptions about other people and their beliefs
3. y ...[text shortened]... ance and where have i displayed intellectual dishonesty? you said it, so where is your evidence?
02 May 15
Originally posted by FMFI am sorry I have some other things i need to get cleared up at present. When its cleared up then Ill try to answer your questions.
How does Proverbs 6:17 sit with your often expressed conviction that ALL 'shedding of blood' is "sin"? Can 6:17 perhaps be used to justify killing in self-defence, fighting in a just war, and executing people for crimes?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo.... How does Proverbs 6:17 sit with your often expressed conviction that ALL 'shedding of blood' is "sin"? Can 6:17 perhaps be used to justify killing in self-defence, fighting in a just war, and executing people for crimes?
If anyone knows what's happened to dweebjeester let me know, perhaps his foot is stuck in his mouth, he has taken a vow of silence? some cat came and took away his tounge, let little ol weedy robbie know - thanks in advance.
02 May 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI was away at a gathering for most of the day.
If anyone knows what's happened to dweebjeester let me know, perhaps his foot is stuck in his mouth, he has taken a vow of silence? some cat came and took away his tounge, let little ol weedy robbie know - thanks in advance.
02 May 15
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou said in your original post that it was difficult (presumably for God as he is the only one who can hold people accountable) to hold people accountable for their unconscious sin, but when you were asked if this meant that these people were actually not accountable for their unconscious sin, you said (after three times of asking) that you "didn't know".
No all you have said is that there is a contradiction you have not explained or given as reason why its a contradiction. Dont you do reasons divesgeester?
Your position here is contradictory because if you "don't know" whether of not people are held accountable (by God) for their unconscious sin, then you had no business proclaiming that "it is difficult (for God) to hold them accountable".
As I was saying in my subsequent posts, you seem to speak as someone with authority, when in fact you "don't know" what it is you are talking about.
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02 May 15
Originally posted by divegeesterThankfully it is a small world nowadays; much easier to stay in touch. How did we cope before the internet?
Lol. No it was a gathering of people, friends, colleagues and relations. Someone close to me is emigrating and it was part of a protracted long goodbye which continues into next week.
04 May 15
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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (Page 4)Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (Page 1)
"Proverbs 6: 17 "Haughty eyes" represents mental attitude arrogance or a presumption of competitive superiority [which inevitably leads to self absorption; self centeredness; and inordinate pride]. The sin of arrogance is the root sin of other sins and destroys the possibility of daily relationship with God. (to be continued)
God detests all mental, verbal and overt activities that violate His Character and Righteous Standards.
The magnitude of seven particular sins listed in Proverbs 6:16-19 dispels any and all shallow views of sin
as a few blatant overt sins or cultural taboos. (to be continued)
"16. There are six things which the Lord hates,
Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him:
17. Haughty eyes, a lying tongue,
And hands that shed innocent blood,
18. A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that run rapidly to evil,
19. A false witness who utters lies,
And one who spreads strife among brothers."
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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (Page 4)
Proverbs 6:17 "Haughty eyes" represents mental attitude arrogance or a presumption of competitive superiority [which inevitably leads to self absorption; self centeredness; and inordinate pride]. The sin of arrogance is the root sin of other sins and destroys the possibility of daily relationship with God. (to be continued)
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Proverbs 6:18 "A heart that devises wicked plans, feet that run rapidly to evil." Comments: "A heart" in the Koine Greek of the New Testament is kardia which is the rational mentality of the soul. / "devises wicked plans": refers to the activity of plotting ways to retaliate which is the mental attitude sin of revenge tactics and schemes. / "feet that run rapidly to evil" describes those who follow the lust patterns of their sin nature into all manner of evil. Such carnal believers [failure to utilize 1John 1:9 and to grow in grace] lack self restraint and/or self discipline; they ultimately revel in their deceit deeds and treachery. (to be continued)