There's been a fair bit of discussion here over the years ~ indeed there have been plenty of confident assertions ~ about the Christian God answering the prayers of Christians including specific claims that such prayers were heard and answered and conjecture about the efficacy of other's prayers regarding their gratitude and their needs.
What do you believe or imagine was the Christian God's answer to the prayers of slave owners - in the U.S. for example - in the C17th and C18th - in which they expressed gratitude for their prosperity, where they asked for protection of their property, and perhaps asked that their slaves would work harder and give birth to lots of children who would also be slaves?
@fmf saidOr indeed the prayers of the slaves themselves ...
There's been a fair bit of discussion here over the years ~ indeed there have been plenty of confident assertions ~ about the Christian God answering the prayers of Christians including specific claims that such prayers were heard and answered and conjecture about the efficacy of other's prayers regarding their gratitude and their needs.
[b]What do you believe or imagine was t ...[text shortened]... ked that their slaves would work harder and give birth to lots of children who would also be slaves?
@wolfgang59 saidIt'd be harder to argue that the prayers of the slaves were heard and answered unless they were praying for the American Civil War in the C19th.
Or indeed the prayers of the slaves themselves ...
The question is about the Christian slave owners' prayers because many of them earned their prosperity partly because of the slaves they owned and those slaves did have children who became slaves too.
@fmf saidThe slaves, of course, in theory, might have been asking, through their prayers, that they remain in slavery and that their children would also be the chattel property of those who owned them.
It'd be harder to argue that the prayers of the slaves were heard and answered unless they were praying for the American Civil War in the C19th.
@divegeester saidDo you have an opinion about the OP you'd like to share?
Why are people thumbing down these posts?
22 Jul 20
@fmf saidmy observation is going to be a tangential reply -
What do you believe or imagine was the Christian God's answer to the prayers of slave owners - in the U.S. for example - in the C17th and C18th - in which they expressed gratitude for their prosperity, where they asked for protection of their property, and perhaps asked that their slaves would work harder and give birth to lots of children who would also be slaves?
i personally imagine that the Omniscience that i call God, or Allah, or any of another thousand names,
answers all prayer with a figurative pat on the head of the asking human
it is my opinion the we humans must answer our own questions
to the best of our ability, knowledge, wisdom, common sense
and then God, or Allah, or the Entity behind the all the names humans give to the Entity, judges us upon our own answers to our own questions
in general, i think that folks 'way back when' that owned people as property did not care what the property thought of being owned
and if that were generally true,
and what i think about God answering prayer by requiring humans to answer their own prayers is true
then God will look harshly upon the ones who own other people as property
dammit i hope my early morning ramblings make a smidgeon of sense
@fmf saidSince you asked...
Do you?
divegeester's question is interesting.
What are your thoughts on the OP.?
I think it's more-of-the-same Christian trolling you engage in here on a regular basis.
If you don't believe in the efficacy of prayer, why else would you care about anyone's prayers? The OP is just a fishing expedition for quotes you can hang over people's heads for the next six months. Your target? Christians, of course.
22 Jul 20
@suzianne saidBut earlier on this page you were asking me to respond to the OP while all the time you weren’t intending to yourself...
Since you asked...
I think it's more-of-the-same Christian trolling you engage in here on a regular basis.
If you don't believe in the efficacy of prayer, why else would you care about anyone's prayers? The OP is just a fishing expedition for quotes you can hang over people's heads for the next six months. Your target? Christians, of course.
@divegeester saidSounds familiar, doesn't it?
But earlier on this page you were asking me to respond to the OP while all the time you weren’t intending to yourself...