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Originally posted by @sonshipPerhaps he sees the slaughter as another example of God's "perfect justice".Did Jesus agree with the mass slaughter of men, women, children and babies?
How has the Holy Spirit used this matter of the possible mass slaughter of men, women, children and babies been an edifying aspect of your own spiritual growth as a Christian ?
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Originally posted by @eladar
Possible slaughter?
You really are a believer in false teachings.
You really are a believer in false teachings.
Okay, let's say Jesus personally saw to it that a definite slaughter took place.
How has that belief caused more of Jesus Christ to be added to your living ?
03 Sep 17
Originally posted by @sonshipIt is simply a warning for those who have eyes.You really are a believer in false teachings.
Okay, let's say Jesus personally saw to it that a definite slaughter took place.
How has that belief caused more of Jesus Christ to be added to your living ?
Evidently since you can't see it, you must have been created spiritually blind.
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Originally posted by @eladarYou have said that my condition is poor.
It is simply a warning for those who have eyes.
Evidently since you can't see it, you must have been created spiritually blind.
But I want to know how your Christian walk has been made richer by this.
How has that belief caused more of Jesus Christ to be added to your living ?
How did knowing all this add Christ to your daily spiritual walk ?
Can you say ?
04 Sep 17
Originally posted by @sonshipFunny question from a man who claims to have Christ yet his statements show he espouses Satan claiming it to be Christ.
You have said that my condition is poor.
But I want to know how your Christian walk has been made richer by this.
How has that belief caused more of Jesus Christ to be added to your living ?
How did knowing all this add Christ to your daily spiritual walk ?
Can you say ?
04 Sep 17
Originally posted by @sonshipWhen you claim that racism is inherently evil. If this is true then Jesus was evil since he was a racist. He was sent to Israel alone. If the woman would have reacted as you would, Jesus would not have helped.
Can you please quote me where I "espoused Satan" ?
You are of Satan if you do not know the God wiped out every man woman and child left in Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Originally posted by @eladar
When you claim that racism is inherently evil. If this is true then Jesus was evil since he was a racist. He was sent to Israel alone. If the woman would have reacted as you would, Jesus would not have helped.
You are of Satan if you do not know the God wiped out every man woman and child left in Sodom and Gomorrah.
When you claim that racism is inherently evil.
I didn't write a thread teaching that Racism was inherently evil.
I wrote a thread on Christ's salvation swallowing up Racism.
Your repeated emphasis on Racism being not all bad or not bad or allowed in the world is off the point as far as I am concerned.
My posts have been about "one new man" swallowing up divisive stratification of races and cultures in the normal Christian church life.
Some things which are philosophical and even good can REPLACE Christ. The New Testament teaches that nothing should replace Christ in the church.
" Beware that not one carries you off as spoil through his philosophy and empty deceit, according to the traditions of men, according to the elements of the world and not according to Christ." (Col. 2:8)
There may be some good musing about Racism.
They should not replace Christ.
Our evil philosophy certainly should not rob us of the experience of Christ.
But then again even our arguably good philosophy should not also.
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The Christians should not be "defrauded" by anyone's empty deceit in terms of his philosophical contemplation about how good Racism can be.
And why? Because in Christ the Person Himself we have all that the Christians need.
" Beware that no one carries you off as spoil through his philosophy and empty deceit ... For in Him [Christ] dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily, And you have been made full in Him, who is the Head of all rule and authority." (See Col. 2:8-10)
Have you been made someone's spoiled through their philosophy ?
Have you been carried off away from enjoying Christ Himself in Whom is all the fullness of God?
If this is true then Jesus was evil since he was a racist.
The passage is about not being made spoil through someone's philsophy. It may be a good philosophy. But it is not Christ and doesn't cultivate a relationship with Christ.
It is perhaps more about "the traditions of men". Racism is one of the traditions of men. Good, bad, whatever, ... the traditions of men can rob the Christian of the needed experience of Christ.
" Beware that not one carries you off as spoil through his philosophy ... according to the traditions of men ..."
You may argue - " But these are GOOD traditions."
You may argue - " But Jesus is OK with me holding to these good traditions."
You may argue - "But this is a GOOD PHILOSOPHY to have - the good Racism that Jesus sanctions for us."
The Apostle Paul is saying that we should beware that the "traditions of men" are not subtle tools to replace Christ in our lives. He calls these traditions of men as the "elements of the world".
That is the rudimentary aspects of world culture.
Beware, he says, that the philosophical traditions of men as the rudimentary aspects of world culture do not replace Christ.
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He was sent to Israel alone. If the woman would have reacted as you would, Jesus would not have helped.
You sound like you need the Bible to sanction your traditional philosophies.
The word of God here is saying that the fullness is not in the elements of the world or the philosophies of men's traditions but in the Person of Christ.
This Christ we must experience for the fulfillment of God's purpose.
You are of Satan if you do not know the God wiped out every man woman and child left in Sodom and Gomorrah.
I have no doubt about the account of Genesis 19.
I also know that Christians should beware that no one hoodwinks them with empty deceit and good sounding philosophy used to exalt the traditions of men, distracting AWAY from Christ.
"See Racism can be such a good thing."
We need to experience Christ until we put on the new man where Racism and other divisive philosophies of men's traditions are swallowed up.
"And have put on the new man, which is being renewed unto full-knowledge according to the image of Him who created him,
Where there cannot be Greek and Jew, circumcision and uncircumcision, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free man,
BUT CHRIST IS ALL AND IN ALL." (Col. 3:10,11) [my bolding]
I'm for the building up of the Christian church where Christ is all and in all.
04 Sep 17
Originally posted by @sonshipYou mean you are for building up Satan's church where people are misled to believe they are following God in an attempt to build themseves up.
He was sent to Israel alone. If the woman would have reacted as you would, Jesus would not have helped.
You sound like you need the Bible to sanction your traditional philosophies.
The word of God here is saying that the fullness is not in the elements of the world or the philosophies of men's traditions but in the Person of Christ ...[text shortened]... /b] [/quote]
I'm for the building up of the Christian church where Christ is all and in all.
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07 Sep 17
Originally posted by @eladarWhere is the misleading ?
You mean you are for building up Satan's church where people are misled to believe they are following God in an attempt to build themseves up.
Jude 20 does speak of the saints building up themselves in the Holy Spirit.
"But you, beloved, building up yourselves upon your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit." (Jude 20)
Was Jude also " ... building up Satan's church where people are misled to believe they are following God in an attempt to build themseves up. " ?