Spirituality
02 Aug 14
04 Aug 14
Originally posted by FMFWell get used to disappointment, me telling you how you did it is all your
Please copy and paste any text written by me where I said the things you are attributing to me. Simply referring back to your own claims that I have said these things will not suffice.
going to see.
Kelly
04 Aug 14
Originally posted by KellyJayI deny that I have ever said that Christians are "living a lie". I also deny that I have ever said that I "reject everyone who is a Christian" for "living a lie". You are just making this stuff up.
Well get used to disappointment, me telling you how you did it is all your
going to see.
Kelly
04 Aug 14
Originally posted by FMFDid you tell me before you changed your views, you were just like me as
I deny that I have ever said that Christians are "living a lie". I also deny that I have ever said that I "reject everyone who is a Christian" for "living a lie". You are just making this stuff up.
far as your faith was concern?
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayI used to be a Christian just as you and many others here in this community are Christians now. I was a Christian for almost three decades. I am not "lying" when I state this, regardless of what you claim. Now, I am an ex-Christian. My beliefs have changed. I do not believe that Christians are "living a lie" and I do not reject all Christians for that reason, as you claim. You are simply fabricating all this.
Did you tell me before you changed your views, you were just like me as
far as your faith was concern?
Kelly
04 Aug 14
Originally posted by FMFI disagree with you here, you were never a Christian like me! What you
I used to be a Christian just as you and many others here in this community are Christians now. I was a Christian for almost three decades. I am not "lying" when I state this, regardless of what you claim. Now, I am an ex-Christian. My beliefs have changed. I do not believe that Christians are "living a lie" and I do not reject all Christians for that reason, as you claim. You are simply fabricating all this.
were was something so bad you had to turn your back on it. What you had
was a fake Jesus who was just between your ears that you made up so you
could later reject Him as not being who Christians know Him to be.
Kelly
04 Aug 14
Originally posted by KellyJayIf you think I was a "bad" Christian, that's fine by me. But I am not "lying" when I state that I was a Christian. And I am not "lying" if I state that ~ twenty years ago ~ we were both Christians. You have even conceded [on a previous thread] that you would have embraced me as a fellow Christian twenty years ago. Nor am I "lying" when I say I do not believe that Christians are "living a lie" or that I "reject" them all. It's something you have made up.
I disagree with you here, you were never a Christian like me! What you
were was something so bad you had to turn your back on it. What you had
was a fake Jesus who was just between your ears that you made up so you
could later reject Him as not being who Christians know Him to be.
Originally posted by menace71Awesome Manny. I used to be member of a cycling team back when I lived in Phoenix. We did a couple MS bike rides from Phoenix to Parker Az. About 190 miles and took two days to do it. What a blast..
I've been out cycling on the weekends did 52 miles today that helps 😉 Just remember this is just a silly forum on a chess website ......the real world is not
Manny
04 Aug 14
Originally posted by SuzianneIf you ever get the chance to cycle out in the desert in the SW like in the Phoenix area, you gotta do it. Nothing like it in the world.....
Yep, 50 miles of cycling a day gives an amazing refreshment to the mind, even if your cycling is urban, as mine is, and I have to constantly watch out for idiot drivers.
Originally posted by FMFYou said you were like me before you changed.
If you think I was a "bad" Christian, that's fine by me. But I am not "lying" when I state that I was a Christian. And I am not "lying" if I state that ~ twenty years ago ~ we were both Christians. You have even conceded [on a previous thread] that you would have embraced me as a fellow Christian twenty years ago. Nor am I "lying" when I say I do not believe that Christians are "living a lie" or that I "reject" them all. It's something you have made up.
So tell me about me about my faith! What is it I believe and why?
What are my views on Spiritual gifts?
What denomination do I go to, or do I care about denominations?
How did I become a Christian?
How much of my life have I been a Christian?
Did my life change once I became a Christian, if I became one later in life?
Do I believe in the Trinity?
Do I believe you must be baptized in the name of the Father, Son, Holy
Spirit? OR Do I believe you must be baptized in Jesus' name only? OR Do I
think it matters which one?
Do I believe in music in the Church, or that you shouldn't have it in the
church?
Do I believe God is real in my daily life or no? If He is how is He?
Do I believe Saturday is the Sabbath and we should worship on that day of
the week, or do I care about days?
Do I think I must work my way into God's good grace or is it a free gift?
Do I have to earn God's grace or do I believe I must obey, because God has
given me His gift of grace so I can follow His lead by His Holy Spirit?
Please tell me how my walk with God is and show me how your life was
just like mine is now? If you do not know, admit you were not telling the
truth!
Kelly
Originally posted by galveston75I remember those days, it was just a tiny bit "before my time". I did not realize you were part of that group. That's awesome.
Awesome Manny. I used to be member of a cycling team back when I lived in Phoenix. We did a couple MS bike rides from Phoenix to Parker Az. About 190 miles and took two days to do it. What a blast..
04 Aug 14
Originally posted by galveston75I live in Scottsdale and I regularly bike 50+ miles a day in Scottsdale, Phoenix, Tempe, Chandler and Mesa, usually more like 75+ in the winter.
If you ever get the chance to cycle out in the desert in the SW like in the Phoenix area, you gotta do it. Nothing like it in the world.....
Originally posted by KellyJayI have never claimed that my life "was just like [yours]" or anything of the sort. I have simply said that, say, twenty years ago, we were both Christians. I was not a Muslim like my neighbour was and is now. I was a Christian back then like you are now. I have never claimed that my life was just like yours.
Please tell me how my walk with God is and show me how your life was
just like mine is now? If you do not know, admit you were not telling the
truth!
Originally posted by FMFWhat happened to you that proves you were once a Christian?
I have never claimed that my life "was just like [yours]" or anything of the sort. I have simply said that, say, twenty years ago, we were both Christians. I was not a Muslim like my neighbour was and is now. I was a Christian back then like you are now. I have never claimed that my life was just like yours.
Originally posted by RJHindsLike KellyJay and you, and all the other Christians here, I self-identified as a Christian, and subscribed to the claims made about Jesus by Christians as based on what I believed was the divinely inspired Bible. I no longer do, of course.
What happened to you that proves you were once a Christian?