16 Jul 18
Originally posted by @kellyjayTwo statements you made are contrary to the teachings of Christ
You think Jesus would be fooled if someone faked it? You think on judgment day fake
miracles are going to be used to justify one's life before God, the day all secrets are going
to be revealed, everyone is giving an account for every idle word? Yes, false preachers
and teachers are real, but they are not limited to churches. On judgment day the only
th ...[text shortened]... saved, not of works least any of us boast. It is not salvation due to
human effort before God!
- everyone has works
- put the works of man before the work of Jesus,
Plus you continue to talk nonsense eg
- I never said that anyone is saved by works. I repeatedly said that people are saved by Christ and Christ will judge people by their works. So you really are very dishonest
- the word saved is not the same as eternal life. They are two different things which you continue to misunderstand.
16 Jul 18
Originally posted by @rajk999Yes and if that was the question asked I would be content. You have made statements about things people have done so you have already made these judgments. If you are unwilling or unable because you think it is all up to Jesus why do you denounce people making judgments against them? Is it you feel good judging others but are unable to address why and how?
Jesus is the judge.
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelIf you looked it up once why didn’t you bring the quote forward so I could say sorry my bad, or prove I am not in the wrong?
Are you kidding me. I already looked it up once.
Originally posted by @kellyjayYou really do not have the Spirit of Christ in you if you can post such nonsense. Jesus condemned the people for their evil works. Nothing was said about good works and yet you continue to state that they did good works.
Yes and if that was the question asked I would be content. You have made statements about things people have done so you have already made these judgments. If you are unwilling or unable because you think it is all up to Jesus why do you denounce people making judgments against them? Is it you feel good judging others but are unable to address why and how?
Then you make all kinds of bogus claims about good works which Jesus never said. You deny that follow the commandments is critical for eternal life when Jesus says so in that very same passage.
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Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. (Matthew 7:21-27 KJV)
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Jesus tells them depart from him because they are evil workers. THEREFORE whosoever hears Christ commandments and DOES them, he is a wise man. Those who hear Christ and do not follow the commandments is a foolish man.
You continue to water down the teachings of Christ and inserting your own doctrine.
It is the very same with the passage that Jesus is the way the truth and the life. Jesus says in that very same passage that the way is showing that you love him and you do that by following the commandments
Your professions to have this Spirit of Christ is a sham
16 Jul 18
Originally posted by @rajk999You contradict yourself here and misrepresent my position again. I have no time to correct you right now.
Two statements you made are contrary to the teachings of Christ
- everyone has works
- put the works of man before the work of Jesus,
Plus you continue to talk nonsense eg
- I never said that anyone is saved by works. I repeatedly said that people are saved by Christ and Christ will judge people by their works. So you really are very dishonest
- ...[text shortened]... not the same as eternal life. They are two different things which you continue to misunderstand.