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Originally posted by @tom-wolseyThe world without empathy would be a lot scarier place than the world without love.
love trumps kindness and empathy
you can be empathetic and not show kindness or love.
you can be kind but not show love (as in kindly enabling someone to hurt themselves or others)
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12 Jul 18
Originally posted by @stellspalfieAn enemy that wants you dead can empathize with you. How does that help you in any way.
The world without empathy would be a lot scarier place than the world without love.
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Originally posted by @tom-wolseyAn ex-girlfriend that wants you dead can still love you. How does that help you in any way?
An enemy that wants you dead can empathize with you. How does that help you in any way.
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Originally posted by @tom-wolseyIt doesnt, but all you have done is create an individual macro event. You could equally give me examples of individual events where love is responsible for negative effects.
An enemy that wants you dead can empathize with you. How does that help you in any way.
On a large societal scale. If we have a population with out empathy then we have a population of psychopaths. It would be a terrible dangerous place to live.
12 Jul 18
Originally posted by @stellspalfieA world without love IS a world without empathy.
The world without empathy would be a lot scarier place than the world without love.
12 Jul 18
Originally posted by @tom-wolseyBut if you have love, you necessarily have kindness and empathy.
love trumps kindness and empathy
you can be empathetic and not show kindness or love.
you can be kind but not show love (as in kindly enabling someone to hurt themselves or others)
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12 Jul 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeBut love, the kind of love Jesus meant, does include empathy and kindness. If you feel those for anybody, you are capable of love.
There's truth in that observation. 'Love' is a niche market. I love very few people on this planet, while I show empathy to a great many. In that sense, I am defined more by empathy than I am by love.
Kindness is what makes us.
I know many men who are not comfortable with 'feelings' or emotions. They tend to think love is sexual only, but again, that's only part of love.
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Originally posted by @suziannedemonstrably not true. If i see a stranger in the street needing help, I will help them because I feel empathy....I do not feel love.
A world without love IS a world without empathy.
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Originally posted by @stellspalfieAnd you could also NOT help the stranger even though you feel empathy. You are more likely to help the stranger out of love.
demonstrably not true. If i see a stranger in the street needing help, I will help them because I feel empathy....I do not feel love.
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Originally posted by @suzianneCould you define 'Jesus Love' for me, it appears we are talking about very different things.
But love, the kind of love Jesus meant, does include empathy and kindness. If you feel those for anybody, you are capable of love.
I know many men who are not comfortable with 'feelings' or emotions. They tend to think love is sexual only, but again, that's only part of love.
13 Jul 18
Originally posted by @stellspalfieYou mean you dont feel attraction ?
demonstrably not true. If i see a stranger in the street needing help, I will help them because I feel empathy....I do not feel love.
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Originally posted by @stellspalfieLove for your neighbor, love for the common man, the love shown by the Good Samaritan. Caring what happens to a man, simply because he is a man, a human being, in the same lifeboat as us.
Could you define 'Jesus Love' for me, it appears we are talking about very different things.
This is similar to the all-inclusive, unconditional love that we feel for ourselves.
This is what Jesus was talking about when he commanded us to love our neighbor as we love ourselves. We normally do not 'fall in love with' ourselves, nor is this self-love sexual in nature. This love is an umbrella under which kindness and empathy are found.
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Originally posted by @suzianneLove doesn't always encompass empathy or enable someone to put themselves in someone else's shoes.
But love, the kind of love Jesus meant, does include empathy and kindness. If you feel those for anybody, you are capable of love.
I know many men who are not comfortable with 'feelings' or emotions. They tend to think love is sexual only, but again, that's only part of love.
Empathy, unlike love, is based on 'understanding' and is, therefore, a far more powerful motivator to help those in need. It leads us to show pity and compassion, just like the Good Samaritan.
'But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him.'
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeYou cannot have love without empathy, as love without empathy would be hollow, one-sided, self-serving, and arguably, not love at all.
Love doesn't always encompass empathy or enable someone to put themselves in someone else's shoes.
Empathy, unlike love, is based on 'understanding' and is, therefore, a far more powerful motivator to help those in need. It leads us to show pity and compassion, just like the Good Samaritan.
'But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the ma ...[text shortened]... il and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him.'