Stupid Law

Originally posted by RJHinds
Truth can not be falsified. That is why it is the truth. HalleluYah !!!

Truth won't be falsified because it's true.

However a proposed explanation for anything must be falsifiable, as in able to be falsified.

It wont be falsified if it is true but the hypothesis must be in principle falsifiable.

Your fear is that what you believe doesn't actually stand up to scrutiny which is why you
wont engage in any proper discussion of it's validity nor can you permit yourself to deal with the
arguments people actually make and thus instead make up your own twisted versions of their
arguments to make yourself feel better.

Originally posted by googlefudge
Truth won't be falsified because it's true.

However a proposed explanation for anything must be falsifiable, as in able to be falsified.

It wont be falsified if it is true but the hypothesis must be in principle falsifiable.

Your fear is that what you believe doesn't actually stand up to scrutiny which is why you
wont engage in any proper disc ...[text shortened]... instead make up your own twisted versions of their
arguments to make yourself feel better.

I'm not worried, I'm happy.

YouTube

Originally posted by RJHinds
I'm not worried, I'm happy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHFDa9efCQU

So why then is it that you can't bring yourself to actually deal with opposing points of view and
arguments and instead lie about what the opposing argument is so that you can create your
own easy to defeat straw man arguments?

If you genuinely think your beliefs are true and will stand up to scrutiny why do you chicken out of
and hide from any attempt to scrutinise your beliefs?


The fact that you utterly refuse to admit that your representations of evolution are pathetically obvious
and craven straw man distortions shows your deep fear and utter cowardice in not actually squaring
up to your opponents and arguing the points on the merits.

Instead you weasel away with insults and deflections and shouts of hallelujah and scurry away from any
actual debate.

It's cowardly and pathetic.

Originally posted by googlefudge
So why then is it that you can't bring yourself to actually deal with opposing points of view and
arguments and instead lie about what the opposing argument is so that you can create your
own easy to defeat straw man arguments?

If you genuinely think your beliefs are true and will stand up to scrutiny why do you chicken out of
and hide from any ...[text shortened]... shouts of hallelujah and scurry away from any
actual debate.

It's cowardly and pathetic.

What is left to debate? Creationism is true. Evolution is false.
Creationism is proved by the existence of the creation and the Holy Bible
tells us that the Creator is Our great God and Savior the Lord of Lords and
the King of Kings. HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!

Originally posted by RJHinds
What is left to debate? Creationism is true. Evolution is false.
Creationism is proved by the existence of the creation and the Holy Bible
tells us that the Creator is Our great God and Savior the Lord of Lords and
the King of Kings. HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!

Nice circular argument.

Creationism is true because of the existence of the creation...


The bible is not evidence.

You have no evidence that gods exist let alone that your god exists and that that god inspired the bible.

There is in fact plenty of evidence that counters that viewpoint. Such as the blatant inaccuracies and
contradictions in the bible as compared to reality. As well as the fact that you can trace it's creation and
inspiration from the other myths and religions of the day.

The existence of the universe is not evidence that the universe was created by an intelligence or even had
a beginning at all.

You have nothing, you have presented no arguments just fallacies and hot air.


Yet again you simply can't bring yourself to actually debate the issues.
Yet again you simply run and hide behind a screen of bluster, ignorance, and fallacies.

Originally posted by googlefudge
Nice circular argument.

Creationism is true because of the existence of the creation...


The bible is not evidence.

You have no evidence that gods exist let alone that your god exists and that that god inspired the bible.

There is in fact plenty of evidence that counters that viewpoint. Such as the blatant inaccuracies and
contradictions i ...[text shortened]... sues.
Yet again you simply run and hide behind a screen of bluster, ignorance, and fallacies.

You have no evidence for your beliefs. You are only speculating and refuse to
see what is right in front of your eyes. You need to engage your brain and
really think and maybe you would see how absurd believing the universe just
happened by chance really is. Most people with common sense would look at
a painting on the wall and believe someone must have painted the painting,
not that it happened by accident. Think man!

Originally posted by RJHinds
What is left to debate? Creationism is true. Evolution is false.
Creationism is proved by the existence of the creation and the Holy Bible
tells us that the Creator is Our great God and Savior the Lord of Lords and
the King of Kings. HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!

Thank you for dropping the pretense that ID is science. It's just a thinly veiled attempt to push religion in the classroom. If only the rest of the ID crowd could be that honest. 🙂

Originally posted by SwissGambit
Thank you for dropping the pretense that ID is science. It's just a thinly veiled attempt to push religion in the classroom. If only the rest of the ID crowd could be that honest. 🙂

Intelligent design was discovered by scientists, even some that were Atheists
and believed in evolution. So ID is indeed science.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/04/0427_050427_intelligent_design.html

Originally posted by RJHinds
You have no evidence for your beliefs. You are only speculating and refuse to
see what is right in front of your eyes. You need to engage your brain and
really think and maybe you would see how absurd believing the universe just
happened by chance really is. Most people with common sense would look at
a painting on the wall and believe someone must have painted the painting,
not that it happened by accident. Think man!

who said it was an accident?

Originally posted by RJHinds
Intelligent design was discovered by scientists, even some that were Atheists
and believed in evolution. So ID is indeed science.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/04/0427_050427_intelligent_design.html

The article does not support the claims you are making. Seriously, read it again...s-l-o-w-l-y this time.

The gist of the article is that ID is not science [since they'd have to change the definition of science to accommodate it]. Note Behe's appeal to the common intuition of laypersons, rather than the knowledge of biologists who have actually studied this stuff in detail.

"What you'll find is ID [intelligent design] has not gone anywhere in the science community," she said. "The scientists have looked at ID and said, Hmmm, not ready for prime time."

Originally posted by SwissGambit
The article does not support the claims you are making. Seriously, read it again...s-l-o-w-l-y this time.

The gist of the article is that ID is not science [since they'd have to change the definition of science to accommodate it]. Note Behe's appeal to the common intuition of laypersons, rather than the knowledge of biologists who have actually studie ...[text shortened]... id. "The scientists have looked at ID and said, Hmmm, not ready for prime time." [/quote]

It still has not been proven wrong even though it is not taken seriously by
most of those the author has supposedly talked to. Many are afraid of it.
If proved true, it will make them look like the fools they are.

Originally posted by RJHinds
It still has not been proven wrong even though it is not taken seriously by
most of those the author has supposedly talked to. Many are afraid of it.
If proved true, it will make them look like the fools they are.

Which part of "it isn't falsifiable" do you not understand?


It CAN'T be proven wrong and thus CAN'T be science. period.


It is not taken seriously because it's useless nonsense thought up by desperate religious
nut jobs such as yourself who want to keep living in the middle ages because your too
chicken to face the modern world.


I explained in detail why ID isn't science.
In exactly the same way as they explained it at the Dover trial.

ID isn't and can never be science.

Whether it's true or not and whether evolution is true or not is irrelevant.

ID is not and never will be science.


What is it about this that you can't comprehend?

Originally posted by googlefudge
Which part of "it isn't falsifiable" do you not understand?


It CAN'T be proven wrong and thus CAN'T be science. period.


It is not taken seriously because it's useless nonsense thought up by desperate religious
nut jobs such as yourself who want to keep living in the middle ages because your too
chicken to face the modern world.


I expla ...[text shortened]... s not and never will be science.


What is it about this that you can't comprehend?

Science behind Intelligent Design

http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/832

The scientific method is commonly described as a four-step process involving observations,
hypothesis, experiments, and conclusion. Intelligent design begins with the observation
that intelligent agents produce complex and specified information (CSI). Design theorists
hypothesize that if a natural object was designed, it will contain high levels of CSI.
Scientists then perform experimental tests upon natural objects to determine if they
contain complex and specified information. One easily testable form of CSI is irreducible
complexity, which can be discovered by experimentally reverse-engineering biological
structures to see if they require all of their parts to function. When ID researchers find
irreducible complexity in biology, they conclude that such structures were designed.