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Originally posted by @fmfThere are millions of examples of design around you, open your eyes, what do you see? Think about the millions of nerve connections that have to be connected in exactly the right sequence for you to see.
I am asking you - a Christian - about what "evidence for creation" you claim to be aware of, not doing a post-mortem on beliefs I happen to have held in decades past and which were faith-based and not much affected by issues of science.
I have gone from seeing a creator behind the world I saw around me, to being agnostic about the question of a creator.
If you are really interested here is an article on the remarkable design of the human eye.
http://www.creationmoments.com/content/design-human-eye
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Originally posted by @fabianfnasIn your mind all creationists are pseudoscientists? Well I'm not surprised.
Are you describing a scientist or are you in fact describing a creationist without knowledge of science? I think the latter.
"Seashells are found on the MtEverest, this must be the ultimate proof of the flooding."
"Err, haven't you heard of tectonics?"
"No,and I will not hear about what Satan is whispering in your ears!"
"So what is the reason that seashells is not found all over the world?"
"More whispering of Satan! Go away!"
18 Sep 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerEvery creationist referring to science to prove their religion is a pseudo scientist.
In your mind all creationists are pseudoscientists? Well I'm not surprised.
Creationism is not science, but pseudo-science.
18 Sep 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerWhy are you asking me for evidence of something?
Give me one example of evidence for evolution that is not made by means of inference and then we can move along with the discussion.
This is your thread.
18 Sep 17
Originally posted by @eladarWhat would you class as evidence in order to help dj2becker with his OP and in answering FMF's question to him on page one?
Evidence is in the eye of the beholder. What one person considers evidence another may not.
Funny how the topic of this thread gets played out by those who disagree.
18 Sep 17
Originally posted by @eladarYou say that evidence based truths doesn't exist?
Evidence is in the eye of the beholder. What one person considers evidence another may not.
Funny how the topic of this thread gets played out by those who disagree.
18 Sep 17
Originally posted by @fabianfnasI say what you call evidence based truth is circular reasoning by true believers.
You say that evidence based truths doesn't exist?
18 Sep 17
Originally posted by @divegeesterAll of creation is evidence of God's hand.
What would you class as evidence in order to help dj2becker with his OP and in answering FMF's question to him on page one?
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Originally posted by @eladarYou are a true believer, then you use evidence based circular reasoning?
I say what you call evidence based truth is circular reasoning by true believers.
18 Sep 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerLies!
Is it true that no scientist who is an atheist will stumble upon evidence for creation and neither will a scientist that believes in creation stumble upon evidence for evolution? The reason being you will only 'find' what you are looking for. So where is the objectivity? A scientist that presupposes evolution will look at the same evidence as a scientist that presupposes creation and they will reach different conclusions.
We are all open to evidence and ideas that we disbelieve and reject.
Except for Christians. They all have closed minds.
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Originally posted by @divegeesterYou said an inference is not 'evidence' itself. So what then is 'evidence' itself?
Why are you asking me for evidence of something?
This is your thread.
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Originally posted by @divegeesterAnything that exists that exhibits characteristics of design and therefore inspires confidence in a 'creator' I would classify as evidence for creation. Look at your own body Dive and tell me honestly whether or not you think it exhibits any characteristics of design.
What would you class as evidence in order to help dj2becker with his OP and in answering FMF's question to him on page one?
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Originally posted by @dj2beckerHere is a definition I would subscribe to. I'll await your version.
You said an inference is not 'evidence' itself. So what then is 'evidence' itself?
evidence: noun
the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
"the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination"
synonyms: proof, confirmation, verification, substantiation, corroboration, affirmation, authentication, attestation, documentation
Courtesy of google.