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13 May 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterTalking of which, I've just started watching the 3rd series of Bates Motel.
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Highly recommended.
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13 May 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeIs it nearly as good as Breaking Bad?
Talking of which, I've just started watching the 3rd series of Bates Motel.
Highly recommended.
Originally posted by @romans1009How do you feel about the Book of Revelation?
I see you’re dodging my question.
You know next to nothing about me. What you do know is I call out amoral hypocrites. And if you think that’s “not being a Christian,” then you obviously don’t know the Bible.
But you claimed to have been a Christian for 30-40 years and to have read the Bible multiple times when you were a Christian.
That sounded ...[text shortened]... out how strange Revelation is. And it took you 30-40 years to figure that out?
Puh-leeeeeeze!
Is it "strange" to you?
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13 May 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterStill trying to impress the atheists?
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You’ve got a lot of ground to make up after you wrote that Jesus is Lord. I bet you told them in pms that you were just kidding. Did you feel ashamed when you wrote that? Did you face get all flushed and warm from embarrassment?
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13 May 18
Originally posted by @suzianneSure is. But I don’t attribute its strangeness to a fault with the book, but rather a fault within myself for not being able to adequately understand it.
How do you feel about the Book of Revelation?
Is it "strange" to you?
That’s one reason why pride is so toxic; it causes us to think we know more than God and know more than we actually do.
17 May 18
"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him."
What is the reason for making this distinction if there is no distinction and it boils down to an action on our part?
Here's how it should have played out with that understanding:
Jesus: "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him."
Listener: "Is everyone drawn?"
Jesus: "Yes."
Listener: "Ok, so what you're saying is, everyone who decides to come to you can come to you."
Jesus: "Yes."
Listener: "Well. Thanks, Cap'n Obvious, can you teach us something we didn't already know?"
17 May 18
Originally posted by @tom-wolseySo what jessi was saying when he said only those who the father draws can come to me, was in fact a pointless statement?
"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him."
What is the reason for making this distinction if there is no distinction and it boils down to an action on our part?
Here's how it should have played out with that understanding:
Jesus: "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him."
Listener: "Is everyone draw ...[text shortened]... "
Listener: "Well. Thanks, Cap'n Obvious, can you teach us something we didn't already know?"
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Originally posted by @tom-wolseyI think you’re overlooking the question of timing (some people are drawn at an early age, some at a much later age,) and the reason why no one can come to Christ without being drawn, which is really the most important point I think Jesus was making.
"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him."
What is the reason for making this distinction if there is no distinction and it boils down to an action on our part?
Here's how it should have played out with that understanding:
Jesus: "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him."
Listener: "Is everyone draw ...[text shortened]... "
Listener: "Well. Thanks, Cap'n Obvious, can you teach us something we didn't already know?"
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This is an interesting thread title.
Rather than title it by Biblical theme or Scriptural reference, divegeester chose to title it as an attack on a Christian. He’s done the same with other Christians and is the only one on here I’m aware of who starts threads for the purpose of attacking other posters.
And he has the nerve to accuse other people of trolling.
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17 May 18
Originally posted by @romans1009Divegeester is very sloppy. I think he drives along in his car with less than 100% attention to the discussion, TEXTING the first crappy thing that comes into his head.
This is an interesting thread title.
Rather than title it by Biblical theme or Scriptural reference, divegeester chose to title it as an attack on a Christian. He’s done the same with other Christians and is the only one on here I’m aware of who starts threads for the purpose of attacking other posters.
And he has the nerve to accuse other people of trolling.
The quality of discussion would improve here without this off the cuff behavior. Don't let him influence you to be like that.
17 May 18
Originally posted by @romans1009And yet at the same time, this 'draws' some Christans to start thinking they're 'special' by thinking "he drew ME to him, but he didn't draw my atheist neighbor to him, I must be 'special' ".
I think you’re overlooking the question of timing (some people are drawn at an early age, some at a much later age,) and the reason why no one can come to Christ without being drawn, which is really the most important point I think Jesus was making.
It becomes self-serving, since it 'serves' the person saying it and everyone else must be 'lesser'.
And before anyone starts up with ridiculous comments, I happen to think perhaps Jesus meant something other than what most people who read that start thinking, because after all he also said that no one is 'good' except the Father, but people don't seem to let that get in the way of them thinking they're 'special'.
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17 May 18
Originally posted by @philokaliaTotally agree, but should add that tiger’s been out-of-sorts lately. I had to buy raspberry jam at the grocery store for his PB&J sandwiches because they were out of his favorite grape jelly and Miss Alawat scolded him yesterday for showing up to homeroom with ale on his breath. I wasn’t aware tiger was going to the pub before school and thought he was getting on the school bus as usual.
Suzianne and I do not have a great relationship or anything, and I jus twant to emphasize that these 'tag you in the subject line' call otu threads are overtly hostile and a bit much.
I do not think that htey fit well with the spirit of Christ nor do they add to the forum.
He’s a handful!
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Originally posted by @suzianne<<And yet at the same time, this 'draws' some Christans to start thinking they're 'special' by thinking "he drew ME to him, but he didn't draw my atheist neighbor to him, I must be 'special' ".>>
And yet at the same time, this 'draws' some Christans to start thinking they're 'special' by thinking "he drew ME to him, but he didn't draw my atheist neighbor to him, I must be 'special' ".
It becomes self-serving, since it 'serves' the person saying it and everyone else must be 'lesser'.
And before anyone starts up with ridiculous comments, I happ ...[text shortened]... the Father, but people don't seem to let that get in the way of them thinking they're 'special'.
I thought we established that God the Father draws everyone to Jesus. Some people resist being drawn; some do not.
Do you agree with that or are you saying something different?