Spirituality
08 Jan 17
10 Jan 17
Originally posted by karoly aczelYou get your reward after you die.
Lol...
Once again I ask goddy doddy to hit me with a lightening bolt for being blasphemous, or whatever.
Nope. It's still not happening.
I got a happy life. I've had to work at it but basically I'm at peace with you and the rest of the universe.
(Is god like the guy with flamethrower from COD? )
You have no idea who I am do you?
11 Jan 17
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“I find the great thing in this world is not so much where we stand, as in what direction we are moving -"
Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr.
Paradoxically, to take a stand is to move forward, to carve a path against adversity and toward the goal.
Holmes Sr. is a font of great quotes, btw. Off topic, but this cannot be denied:
“What refuge is there for the victim who is oppressed with the feeling that there are a thousand new books he ought to read, while life is only long enough for him to attempt to read a hundred?”
Welcome to the grand illusion!
12 Jan 17
karoly aczel : "now" is all there isI think you are perverting the meaning of words in order to propagate your superstitious ideology. All the evidence regarding reality indicates that "now is all there is" and then we die. Your mythology and assertions about an "afterlife" involve statements of faith. You have no evidence whatsoever that anyone has ever proceeded to an "afterlife". Until you do have such evidence, all you are talking about is your hope, imagination and faith, while karoly aczel is talking about reality.
Originally posted by Eladar
Nice statement of faith.
12 Jan 17
Originally posted by FMFOf course you think I'm wrong.
I think you are perverting the meaning of words in order to propagate your superstitious ideology. All the evidence regarding reality indicates that "now is all there is" and then we die. Your mythology and assertions about an "afterlife" involve statements of faith. You have no evidence whatsoever that anyone has ever proceeded to an "afterlife". Until you do h ...[text shortened]... talking about is your hope, imagination and faith, while karoly aczel is talking about reality.
Lol did you really need to say that? It is pretty obvious.
Originally posted by FMFI am not side stepping, I simply disagree with your belief about faith.
Why not address the point that I made about the meaning of "faith" rather than sidestep it in this way?
When you can agree with me that putting your faith in what you can see is just as much faith as believing in the Bible, then we could talk.
12 Jan 17
Originally posted by EladarYour beliefs about an afterlife are examples of "faith" right? You can't prove it. There is no evidence. But you believe it. You are sincere. You are certain. You count on it being true. That's "faith", right?
I am not side stepping, I simply disagree with your belief about faith.
When you can agree with me that putting your faith in what you can see is just as much faith as believing in the Bible, then we could talk.
Are you seriously rejecting the evidence that we all die and our lives end? It doesn't require "faith" to know that this is so.
Your claims about some continuation of life after death exist in the realms of "faith".
12 Jan 17
Originally posted by FMFWould you say your belief that God exists but somehow hasn't revealed himself to anyone is based on "faith"?
Your beliefs about an afterlife are examples of "faith" right? You can't prove it. There is no evidence. But you believe it. You are sincere. You are certain. You count on it being true. That's "faith", right?
Are you seriously rejecting the evidence that we all die and our lives end? It doesn't require "faith" to know that this is so.
Your claims about some continuation of life after death exist in the realms of "faith".
12 Jan 17
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkNo. I would describe my belief that god may exist as a hunch or a gut feeling in which I place no "faith" whatsoever; And I would describe my belief that god hasn't revealed himself to anyone as a consequence of intellectual and spiritual interaction with people of various faiths who claim he does where they did not present anything to me that seemed to justify placing my "faith" in.
Would you say your belief that God exists but somehow hasn't revealed himself to anyone is based on "faith"?