The Beginning

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
deserve what? your approval ?, keep it Spanky, anyone who insists on filling the forum with his sexual fantasies, i distance myself from! i have my own mind and my own evaluations!

That's right, you don't get my approval. You have your followers, and they are like you. But a majority of us, including a majority of the christians, think you're too extrem to be approved.

You don't care about my approval. So don't include me in your little list of yours.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
That's right, you don't get my approval. You have your followers, and they are like you. But a majority of us, including a majority of the christians, think you're too extrem to be approved.

You don't care about my approval. So don't include me in your little list of yours.

yeah yeah, Christ himself was never that popular, and its no surprise that his followers would not be either,

(John 15:18-19) . . .If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, on this account the world hates you.

well surprise surprise!

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Robbie without doubt i think you're the biggest nutjob on here.

i dont mind what you think Noobster, at least there is no venom in your sentiments! the revised list now looks like, Conrau, Galvo, black beetle, ulysses72, elamef37, just lucky, Goshen, greenpawn, Scriabin and Anmi2 !

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yeah yeah, Christ himself was never that popular, and its no surprise that his followers would not be either,

(John 15:18-19) . . .If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, on this account the world hates you.

well surprise surprise!

Don't compare yourself with Christ.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
Don't compare yourself with Christ.

umm what is it about the scripture that is seemingly beyond you?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
umm what is it about the scripture that is seemingly beyond you?

Answer the question!
BTW-I'm clearly the biggest nutjob on here...
edit: I meant answer the assertion
edit2:you did answer it,maybe you are the biggest nutjob on here,like Fabian said, surely you are not comparing yourself to Christ?!

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Answer the question!
BTW-I'm clearly the biggest nutjob on here...
edit: I meant answer the assertion
edit2:you did answer it,maybe you are the biggest nutjob on here,like Fabian said, surely you are not comparing yourself to Christ?!

ok, lets start with the basics

Fabian did not ask a question, in his usual pompous and self assertive tone, he bellows out an imperative command, 'don't compare yourself to Christ', this is not a question, which naturally i simply ignore.

secondly i also think that there are many crazier people on here than me, the evolutionists for example, have built a whole belief system around a speculative theory, founded on a premise that is scientifically unsubstantiated, prone to refutation, and then have the audacity to term others stupid, because we do not accept it, that to me is crazeeeee

thirdly you may indeed be a candidate for the craziest, i do not deny it, for you have proffered some quite outstanding ideas.

fourthly, you should not believe anything Fabian says, he is unstable and prone to delusion, thinks that others are commanded by his words and has no concept of spirituality beyond his own narrow view.

fifthly, Christ himself states, as in the cited scripture, that his true followers would experience persecution, even as he did. this is not a mystery, this is not a comparison, this is a simple fact. That Fabian and even yourself failed to recognise this is truly beyond my comprehension.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
ok, lets start with the basics

Fabian did not ask a question, in his usual pompous and self assertive tone, he bellows out an imperative command, 'don't compare yourself to Christ', this is not a question, which naturally i simply ignore.

secondly i also think that there are many crazier people on here than me, the evolutionists for example, ha ...[text shortened]... ct. That Fabian and even yourself failed to recognise this is truly beyond my comprehension.

You didn't answer my question with regards to this statement of yours -

even the very first statement, 'in the beginning, God created,', is scientifically accurate

How can the statement be scientifically accurate, if science hasn't proven the existence of your God?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
ok, lets start with the basics

Fabian did not ask a question, in his usual pompous and self assertive tone, he bellows out an imperative command, 'don't compare yourself to Christ', this is not a question, which naturally i simply ignore.

secondly i also think that there are many crazier people on here than me, the evolutionists for example, ha ...[text shortened]... ct. That Fabian and even yourself failed to recognise this is truly beyond my comprehension.

the evolutionists for example, have built a whole belief system around a speculative theory

What's your belief system built around? A book of second hand fairytales masquarading as evidence for a God called Jehovah who created the universe A chap who is so emotionally needy he needs everyone to believe in him otherwise he'll send them to hell.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
You didn't answer my question with regards to this statement of yours -

even the very first statement, 'in the beginning, God created,', is scientifically accurate

How can the statement be scientifically accurate, if science hasn't proven the existence of your God?

sorry Noob, sorry i forgot, ok, this has naught to do with the existence of God, but that the universe indeed had a beginning. Thus i do not think that there are many who disagree that there was a 'beginning', as the Bible clearly states, in perfect harmony with contemporary scientific thought, but that it was 'god who created', that some people have trouble with.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
[b]the evolutionists for example, have built a whole belief system around a speculative theory

What's your belief system built around? A book of second hand fairytales masquarading as evidence for a God called Jehovah who created the universe A chap who is so emotionally needy he needs everyone to believe in him otherwise he'll send them to hell.[/b]

ohh touchy touchy touchy!

(Hebrews 11:1) . . .Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld.

now Noobster you should know better than that, we do not profess believe in a place of torment, called Hell!

perhaps i can state it simply, as i have done for Fabian, although he as per usual avoided the issue and clouded it with his own

there are various modes of thought, that enable a person, to comprehend these unseen realities, i shall mention them in very general terms at present, please feel free to ask of specifics.

Firstly there is a study of Gods word, once the inspiration of the Bible can be established primarily through its examination, then the case for the existence of God can be made.

Secondly there is a study of the physical universe, in which 'godly qualities', may be determined, such as justice, love , wisdom, power, harmony etc. It may take on any type of manifestation, from plant photosynthesis through to the amazing design of human body and the physiology of the organs, the ear, or the earth and its eco systems, or the cosmos etc etc..

(Romans 1:20) . . .For his invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship,. . .


thirdly there is the application of principles, in which a person can determine, that yes, indeed , these principles are beneficial and are provided by a loving and beneficent creator for ones benefit.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
ok, lets start with the basics

Fabian did not ask a question, in his usual pompous and self assertive tone, he bellows out an imperative command, 'don't compare yourself to Christ', this is not a question, which naturally i simply ignore.

secondly i also think that there are many crazier people on here than me, the evolutionists for example, ha ...[text shortened]... ct. That Fabian and even yourself failed to recognise this is truly beyond my comprehension.

So thats a 'Yes'. You do compare yourself to Christ?
(I don't care if you do but just be clear about it)

If I was 'going down' and I had to choose between you and Fabian I would choose Fabian,(not that I would choose anyone,but if I had to make a choice),sorry Robbie.

Feel free to tell me why I may have made the wrong choice. What would Jesus say?

Originally posted by karoly aczel
So thats a 'Yes'. You do compare yourself to Christ?
(I don't care if you do but just be clear about it)

If I was 'going down' and I had to choose between you and Fabian I would choose Fabian,(not that I would choose anyone,but if I had to make a choice),sorry Robbie.

Feel free to tell me why I may have made the wrong choice. What would Jesus say?

nope, that is not a yes, i have not compared myself to Jesus.

going down where? to the corner shop? to the Mississippi, going where?

and if you were going to the corner shop, i would be happy for you to go with Fabians, and dont be sorry for me, i do not solicit your sympathy!

feel free to look up the Bible and read it for yourself!

what would Jesus say with regard to who is the greatest?

(Matthew 20:25-28) . . .But Jesus, calling them to him, said: “you know that the rulers of the nations lord it over them and the great men wield authority over them.  This is not the way among you; but whoever wants to become great among you must be your minister,  and whoever wants to be first among you must be your slave.  Just as the Son of man came, not to be ministered to, but to minister and to give his soul a ransom in exchange for many.”

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
nope, that is not a yes, i have not compared myself to Jesus.

going down where? to the corner shop? to the Mississippi, going where?

and if you were going to the corner shop, i would be happy for you to go with Fabians, and dont be sorry for me, i do not solicit your sympathy!

feel free to look up the Bible and read it for yourself!

what ...[text shortened]... e, not to be ministered to, but to minister and to give his soul a ransom in exchange for many.”

...as clear as mud.

Originally posted by karoly aczel
...as clear as mud.

shall we start with your statement, 'if i was going down'? these were your words were they not? where are you going down to? is that clear and simple enough?