12 Feb 22
@divegeester saidSo long and short, some are confused about Hell.
But I WILL address why you specifically say, even if you won’t reciprocate. Your points follow by my SPECIFIC replies then:
“You also keep getting bent out of shape that Christ is the one who rules over even Hell and stands in judgment and condemns those outside of Him”
My reply - No I don’t get “bent out of shape at all. What I’ve said is in my OP and every reply t ...[text shortened]... Very nice, but a complete non sequitur in terms of what I posted in reply to you, and indeed my OP.
I agree.
I also think you are one of them, but not for the reasons you list.
12 Feb 22
@kellyjay saidNo not “confused”, passively misled by the church over decades.
So long and short, some are confused about Hell.
I agree.
I also think you are one of them, but not for the reasons you list.
I’m not confused at all, I’m looking at revelation and I’m quite clear on what it says and why the church would want to allow the misconception that Satan oversees hell rather than this version of Jesus.
12 Feb 22
@divegeester saidI don't think the church does that; the church (those who know the Lord and the scriptures) knows precisely what it says. Those who appear to know the Lord but neither know Him or the scriptures typically get their theology from TV shows or movies, off-hand conversations, their feelings; they simply don't know but assume they do.
No not “confused”, passively misled by the church over decades.
I’m not confused at all, I’m looking at revelation and I’m quite clear on what it says and why the church would want to allow the misconception that Satan oversees hell rather than this version of Jesus.
12 Feb 22
@kellyjay saidWell I don’t disagree with what you are saying here but it doesn’t address the point, other than your assertion “I don’t think the church does that”.
I don't think the church does that; the church (those who know the Lord and the scriptures) knows precisely what it says. Those who appear to know the Lord but neither know Him or the scriptures typically get their theology from TV shows or movies, off-hand conversations, their feelings; they simply don't know but assume they do.
Tell you what here’s a challenge for you; tomorrow in church ask three random people, without any prompting who is the spiritual individual in hell overseeing the lost souls being cast into the lake of fire.
See what you get in reply.
12 Feb 22
@divegeester saidI go to Bible studies and prayers meetings; the doctrine about sin and hell is not an obscure topic among those who take the Word of God and God seriously. Those who don't get their doctrine from the Word get from whatever they think due to their exposure to everything in the world. For doctrinal topics, everything they think about is more than likely will be filled with misconceptions concerning the doctrine, not just Hell.
Well I don’t disagree with what you are saying here but it doesn’t address the point, other than your assertion “I don’t think the church does that”.
Tell you what here’s a challenge for you; tomorrow in church ask three random people, without any prompting who is the spiritual individual in hell overseeing the lost souls being cast into the lake of fire.
See what you get in reply.
12 Feb 22
@kellyjay saidYes, so you said.
I go to Bible studies and prayers meetings; the doctrine about sin and hell is not an obscure topic among those who take the Word of God and God seriously. Those who don't get their doctrine from the Word get from whatever they think due to their exposure to everything in the world. For doctrinal topics, everything they think about is more than likely will be filled with misconceptions concerning the doctrine, not just Hell.
So will you take up my challenge?
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12 Feb 22
@divegeester saidI have a challenge for you.
Yes, so you said.
So will you take up my challenge?
Try to go one week without trashing the Name of Jesus Christ and try to go 12 hours without lying.
And try to go 30 minutes without insulting or trolling someone.
Will you take up my challenge?
@pb1022 saidYour challenge is a non sequitur and a troll in itself.
I have a challenge for you.
Try to go one week without trashing the Name of Jesus Christ and try to go 12 hours without lying.
And try to go 30 minutes without insulting or trolling someone.
Will you take up my challenge?
Even if it wasn’t, I’m just not interested in taking you seriously until you demonstrate that you can take ownership and responsibility for the posting you did as Romans1009.
If you want to be even remotely accepted here then you need to do this, with genuine sincerity and with a commitment to not do it again. A sincere apology owning what you did will take the wind out of your detractors sails to a large extent.
If you aren’t prepared to do this that’s fine too, but don’t expect to be taken seriously.
13 Feb 22
@divegeester saidNo problem or worries, dive you have something you'd like to see through, go for it.
I didn’t think so, but thanks for your honesty KellyJay. Seriously.
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13 Feb 22
@divegeester said<<If you want to be even remotely accepted here then you need to do this, with genuine sincerity and with a commitment to not do it again. A sincere apology owning what you did will take the wind out of your detractors sails to a large extent.>>
Your challenge is a non sequitur and a troll in itself.
Even if it wasn’t, I’m just not interested in taking you seriously until you demonstrate that you can take ownership and responsibility for the posting you did as Romans1009.
If you want to be even remotely accepted here then you need to do this, with genuine sincerity and with a commitment to not do it again ...[text shortened]... tent.
If you aren’t prepared to do this that’s fine too, but don’t expect to be taken seriously.
I think it’s hilarious how you set yourself up as the spokesman for this community.
And you previously told me to say I was that Roman guy to “remove all doubts” and I told you to take those doubts up with Ghosty.
PB doesn’t like all this forum drama!
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13 Feb 22
@divegeester saidAnd my challenge was completely serious.
Your challenge is a non sequitur and a troll in itself.
Even if it wasn’t, I’m just not interested in taking you seriously until you demonstrate that you can take ownership and responsibility for the posting you did as Romans1009.
If you want to be even remotely accepted here then you need to do this, with genuine sincerity and with a commitment to not do it again ...[text shortened]... tent.
If you aren’t prepared to do this that’s fine too, but don’t expect to be taken seriously.
As was this one:
Produce a single post from that Roman guy trolling you over the death of your mother or making a comment about adults having sex with a child, and I’ll *immediately* stop posting in the forums and leave this website when my current chess games are finished.
Forget about trying to get me banned - I’ll *leave voluntarily and cease posting in the forums immediately* if you produce one post backing up what you claim
One single, solitary post. Just one.
FMF already has the thread where that Roman guy allegedly trolled you over the death of your mother and you boast of having a “VAULT” of old threads and posts.
Surely you could find one post from the “hundreds and hundreds” of posts FMF claims that Roman guy made about “adults having sex with a child.”
You guys are shameless and pathetic liars with zero integrity, and the three of you (the Trolling Trio) should apologize to me - and to that Roman guy.